G W Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 SmartHome had this for $99 today. Has anyone use this?http://www.smarthome.com/smarthome-select-electronic-water-shutoff-valve-3-4-inch-12v-dc.html?trk_msg=CPR6PVKGK1BKB1U4FVR9L224H0&trk_contact=00LD89CRU2EVJAIRIJOCNQEBCO&trk_module=arm&SK=HML16RB72&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Product&utm_campaign=Recurring+Automated+Campaign&utm_content=Recurring+Automated+Campaign Short and to the point. Best regards, Gary Funk
Blackbird Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 That's a good price. Id also like to hear from people who own this
Blackbird Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I'm curious about this comment made by one of the reviewers. "1) You need to carefully read the Note on the bottom of the Detail Page about a Dual Band device because a Range Extender #2992-222 or other RF device is needed in addition to the I/O Link and Power Supply."
larryllix Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I'm curious about this comment made by one of the reviewers. "1) You need to carefully read the Note on the bottom of the Detail Page about a Dual Band device because a Range Extender #2992-222 or other RF device is needed in addition to the I/O Link and Power Supply." The Leak sensor is battery operated only and therfore RF only.Meanwhile the IO/Lin is old Insteon technology and only powerline. Something has to translate the protocols from RF to Powerline. This can be any dual band device. I have four LS and three IO/Links and no Access Points or Phase Couplers or Range extenders. Not required with more modern protocol dual band Insteon devices.
G W Posted September 24, 2016 Author Posted September 24, 2016 I only care about the valve. I'll connect to the Elk Short and to the point. Best regards, Gary Funk
Toddimus Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 That valve might be a good tool to use for an automatic pool filling system, if I ever get around to automating my pool.
Blackbird Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I only care about the valve. I'll connect to the Elk Short and to the point. Best regards, Gary Funk how do you connect to the elk? Wire it straight to the panel and no need for the iolinc? Can the insteon water sensor trigger the elk to turn off the water?
Scottmichaelj Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 how do you connect to the elk? Wire it straight to the panel and no need for the iolinc? Can the insteon water sensor trigger the elk to turn off the water? Yes and yes or use a wired sensor if you can also back to the elk. If the sensor is trigger the elk can turn off the valve. Easy.
Ajax Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 I installed one in my new construction but have not gotten around to wire it up yet. Maybe the next week or so.
G W Posted October 1, 2016 Author Posted October 1, 2016 Mine arrived yesterday. Short and to the point. Best regards, Gary Funk
Blackbird Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Yes and yes or use a wired sensor if you can also back to the elk. If the sensor is trigger the elk can turn off the valve. Easy. Does the water shutoff wire to one of the zones on the ELK?
Scottmichaelj Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Does the water shutoff wire to one of the zones on the ELK? No you need a water sensor connected to a zone. When the water sensor is "violated" (triggered by water) then your ELK will turn it off via the "OUT" on the ELK M1G board. The installation instructions are here (which are the same as the one you got): http://www.elkproducts.com/products/elk-wsv2-professional-grade-water-shutoff-valve Then you will create a "Rule" in the ElkRP software that says: When Zone "X" is violated Then turn off water Also be aware to help minimize or clear mineral buildup on the valve face, periodically auto-cycle it once a week, month, etc. EDIT: Here is an example of a hardwire water sensor http://www.homesecuritystore.com/safety/water-flood-sensors/tri-ed-2600 Edited October 3, 2016 by Scottmichaelj
AnthemAVM Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I wondering if I could install this on my hose waterline before the spigot, and set up a program that would tell me if the hose had been on for greater than 20 minutes. A few weeks ago, I left the hose on for 14 hours and overfilled my pool.
Teken Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I wondering if I could install this on my hose waterline before the spigot, and set up a program that would tell me if the hose had been on for greater than 20 minutes. A few weeks ago, I left the hose on for 14 hours and overfilled my pool. Ouch that's going to hurt if your not on a well! I would humbly suggest you consider installing one of those units that can be programmed for flow / time instead. These simple devices just work and doesn't rely on complicated networks and computer systems.
Scottmichaelj Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I wondering if I could install this on my hose waterline before the spigot, and set up a program that would tell me if the hose had been on for greater than 20 minutes. A few weeks ago, I left the hose on for 14 hours and overfilled my pool. Someone just asked me this question the other day and I didn't have an answer for them. They had someone turn on their hose bib and they didn't notice it until the water was flowing down their driveway when the left for work. Not sure of a solution.
G W Posted October 4, 2016 Author Posted October 4, 2016 I wondering if I could install this on my hose waterline before the spigot, and set up a program that would tell me if the hose had been on for greater than 20 minutes. A few weeks ago, I left the hose on for 14 hours and overfilled my pool.The valve does not know when water is flowing. You would need something inline to tell you water is flowing. I'm looking but have not found anything. Best regards, Gary Funk
apostolakisl Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I wondering if I could install this on my hose waterline before the spigot, and set up a program that would tell me if the hose had been on for greater than 20 minutes. A few weeks ago, I left the hose on for 14 hours and overfilled my pool. There are whole house water leak detection/shut off systems that both monitor flow and shut off the water. They have a cpu that runs algorithms for what normal water usage patterns are and if they detect a pattern that looks like a leak or broken line, they shut the water off. Unlike using a water detector, these algorithms do not shut the water off right away. However, unlike if you use leak sensors, this will shut the water off if your leak is somewhere you don't have a sensor. My bet is that if you had left your hose running for an hour, it would have shut the water off. Obviously, it can't shut the water off too fast, because you might have actually wanted the water running for say 20 or 30 minutes.
TrojanHorse Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 The valve does not know when water is flowing. You would need something inline to tell you water is flowing. I'm looking but have not found anything. Best regards, Gary Funk What about this as a cheap option? https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Flow-Meter-Plastic-Threaded/dp/B00K0TFZN8#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1475601113732 I can't vouch for it but stumbled upon this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
G W Posted October 4, 2016 Author Posted October 4, 2016 What about this as a cheap option? https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Flow-Meter-Plastic-Threaded/dp/B00K0TFZN8#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1475601113732 I can't vouch for it but stumbled upon this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's not what I was looking for but it would work. That device measures flow and while it will work, I just want to know if water is moving. Thanks for the link. That device has some interesting uses. Best regards, Gary Funk
apostolakisl Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 What about this as a cheap option? https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Flow-Meter-Plastic-Threaded/dp/B00K0TFZN8#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1475601113732 I can't vouch for it but stumbled upon this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To the best of my knowledge, no insteon device is capable of pulse counting. You would also need to use something like a raspberry pi or cai webcontrol board with code written on it that monitors the pulse count, makes sense of it, then posts to ISY something that you can base an ISY program on.
giesen Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) To the best of my knowledge, no insteon device is capable of pulse counting. You would also need to use something like a raspberry pi or cai webcontrol board with code written on it that monitors the pulse count, makes sense of it, then posts to ISY something that you can base an ISY program on. Another option for pulse counting is the Brultech GEM. It has 4 inputs for pulse counting. Obviously not economical if you want it only for measuring your water flow, but if you can use the power monitoring as well it might fit the bill. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Edited October 5, 2016 by giesen
apostolakisl Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 This will help with pulse counting using CAI. http://cocoontech.com/forums/topic/22252-how-to-count-pulse-from-water-flow-or-energy-meter/
G W Posted October 5, 2016 Author Posted October 5, 2016 I only want On and Off. Best regards, Gary Funk
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