KeypadLink - All Off Button

[steve_p]

Hi,

 

Is there a way to configure a keypad to turn off several buttons when pressing another without using a scene or program?

 

For example, when I press Button D I would like the keypad to turn off Buttons A, B, C and the main Keypad ON button. I tried using the Mutually Exclusive Buttons but it does not seem to do this.

 

Currently I have been using HouseLinc v2 to do this but I want to use ISY to program this instead. Here is how it works using HouseLinc v2.

 

Thanks,

Steve

[Sub-Routine]

Steve_p,

 

You can set button D to non-toggle-off and create a scene that contains all the other buttons controlled by button D. Scenes are all written to the devices and will work without the ISY.

 

Whatever mode the button is in when changing it to non-toggle will stick when using the using the ISY to change the toggle mode, so if you want it non-toggle off be sure the button is off before changing it to non-toggle.

 

Rand

[steve_p]

Hi Rand,

 

I have done what you suggested previously and although it does work it makes the D button flash on and off several times before finally turning off the other buttons lights.

 

When I used HouseLinc's method to do this it immediately turns the other Keypad button lights off giving a visually cleaner look.

 

I guess it's no big deal as both methods work but it would be more professional looking if when you pressed the D button the other button lights turned off immediately.

 

The interesting part is I can use Houselinc to does setup the keypad buttons to do this and then ISY to setup the scenes without adding the 3 other keypad buttons to the scenes but I am trying to only use ISY for everything.

 

I guess I am just too picky! HAHA!

 

Thanks for your help,

Steve

[Sub-Routine]

No you are not too picky. This should work with the ISY.

 

If the button is flashing it is usually an indication that an Insteon responder is missing from the scene the controller knows.

 

That doesn't explain why the buttons aren't turning off immediately though.

 

Do you have an odd load on the KPL?

 

Rand

[steve_p]

Hi Rand,

 

These are newer keypads version 1.8 or v.2D in ISY.

 

The button does not flash a bunch of times like when a responder is missing. Instead it simply flashes 2 times and then all the keypad button lights turn off.

 

If I set this using HouseLinc v2 then there is no flashing at all and the second you press the D button all the other buttons immediately turn off.

 

I explained this in the How To forum in detail.

http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=2298

 

Thanks,

Steve

[Sub-Routine]

Interesting. Let me pass this on to the programmers.

 

Thank you for pointing this out.

Rand

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Steve,

 

I just tested this and you are 100% correct:

1. The controller flashes 2 times before actually sending the off group command. this is 100% normal for any non-toggle button (for toggle buttons, everything is instantaneous)

2. The responders turn off with a delay the duration of which is equal to the length of time it takes for the button to blink twice

3. Functionally, everything works as programmed

 

Now, what worries me the most is that the blinking non-toggle button is THE NORMAL behavior where as what HouseLinc does, to me, is not normal. So, perhaps they possess some secret ingredient that we have not been privy to but I seriously doubt it since memory locations and semantics for KPLs are pretty well established.

 

In summary, I am so very sorry that I cannot be of further assistance since the devices are behaving in a manner in which I deem normal ... I really wished I could have a better answer for you.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[steve_p]

Hi Michel,

 

Thanks for looking into this. You are correct that it functions properly and my only point was I think it’s a lot cleaner looking if that button does not flash 2 times even though that is normal. HAHA!

 

The cool part is for whatever reason HouseLinc can stop that flashing by configuring the keypad buttons and I only have to do this once. After I configure it I can use ISY 100% for everything else and I get the best of both worlds.

 

I am not sure how they are able to do this in HouseLinc but I was thinking you might be able to add some code to do the same in ISY. It sort of goes back to what Rand said about when you see a flashing button it normally means there is a problem. This is really just a matter of being picky and not a big deal feature especially since I can use HouseLinc combined with ISY to eliminate that flashing and get exactly the effect I am looking for.

 

Thanks Again,

Steve