Jason Miller Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Hello, I am trying to figure this out. I have 4 outdoor lights on the following schedule: ------------- Front Porch Light - [iD 0004][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off ------------------ Garage Outside Lights - [iD 000A][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Else Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off ------------- Garden Patio Light - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off --------- Walkway Lights Schedule - [iD 0015][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off ------------ So each of these 4 devices will turn ON at sunset and off at 11pm I also have a motion sensor setup. I want the motion sensor to turn these lights on upon motion, starting at 11:05pm until sunrise and go off after 5 mins if triggered on motion. However, I am finding this schedule isn't working: --------- Outdoor Lights Motion - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If From 11:05:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Status 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is On Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Else Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off --------- Any thoughts on the programming here? It seems my last "else statement" is overiding and keeping the lights off from sunset to 11pm. Link to comment
sdynak Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Here is what I have doing something similar in a scene.. Maybe the concept will work for yours with the devices? Hallway Auto Light - [iD 0021][Parent 0001] If From Sunset + 1 minute To Sunrise - 1 minute (next day) And Status 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is On Then Set Scene 'Hallway Auto Light' On Else Wait 2 minutes Set Scene 'Hallway' Off Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Have you tried not including any Else statements in the MS program? Also, why not use one program for the outside lights? Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I don't see any reason why a single program would not work for your schedule. If you don't want to use a scene as sdynak suggested, try: Front Porch Light - [iD 0004][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Regarding the motion sensors, I expect your program should work with one minor modification: If From 11:05:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Control 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is On <<<change to "control" rather than "status" Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Else Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Ok, so I set 1 program up for the lights from sunset to 11pm: Outdoor Light Schedule - [iD 0004][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off For the motion, I changed it to control, as mentioned: Outdoor Lights Motion - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If From 11:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Control 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is switched On Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Else Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Look good? I'll monitor and see how it looks tonight. Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 You don't need the Else in the MS program. Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I actually like the else clause. This guards against the possibilty when sunrise occurs during the 5 miunte wait period. Without the else clause, the lights would remain on. Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ok .. so I came home tonight, all the lights were on. It appears, for some reason, they cut off once I pulled into the driveway. Doesn't make any sense as the motion sensor isn't supposed to kick on until 11pm .. I've reviewed what I've pasted in this and it seems as if it all should work and many have said it looks right as well. Perhaps anyone else have any insights? Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Well, your first program turns them on at sunset and off at 11. What time did you arrive home? Did you create any scenes that include the motion sensor (controller) and lights (as responder)? If so, delete the scene. Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Around 7pm, after sunset, in the dark. Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Posts crossed. Did you not expect them to be on? Did they turn off unexpectedly? Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 They were on but turned off it seems when the MS detected me, even though the MS shouldn't go into effect until 11pm. The MS isn't connected to do anything else, other than send an email on detection. Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Is the motion sensor part of any scenes? Are the lights part of any scenes? Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I may also have to apologize to you. I think I gave you bad advice. I thought simple motion programs could be handled in a single program, but may even have to break it into two programs (pretty common solution). For your motion program, try the following approach: If Time is from 1100 To sunrise (next day) Then Run next program (then path) Else Nothing Next program: If Nothing Then Turn all the lights on Wait 5 minutes Turn all the lights off Else Nothing Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I may also have to apologize to you. I think I gave you bad advice. I thought simple motion programs could be handled in a single program, but may even have to break it into two programs (pretty common solution). For your motion program, try the following approach: If Time is from 1100 To sunrise (next day) Then Run next program (then path) Else Nothing Next program: If Nothing Then Turn all the lights on Wait 5 minutes Turn all the lights off Else Nothing I don't follow on the motion program. Currently, it's set as: Outdoor Lights Motion - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If From 11:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Control 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is switched On Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') What do you mean run next program, then path? Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Break it into two programs. Program 1 If From 11:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Control 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is switched On then run program 2 (then path) else nothing Program 2 if nothing thenThen Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off else nothing What do you mean run next program, then path? When one calls a program from another program, one must specify what part of the program to run. In this case, I want it to run the "then" path. (Not the IF path. Not the ELSE path.) Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ok, it's setup as follows now: Outdoor Light Schedule - [iD 0004][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Else Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off MOTION SENSOR Outdoor Lights Motion - [iD 0013][Parent 0001] If From 11:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And Control 'Driveway Sensor-Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Outdoor Lights Motion Prog' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') AND Outdoor Lights Motion Prog - [iD 0005][Parent 0001] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' On Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' On Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Outdoor: Garden Patio Light' Off Set 'Outside: Garage Lights' Off Set 'Outdoor: Front Porch Light' Off Set 'Outdoor: Walkway Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
oberkc Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 OK. Hopefully, I did not give you bad advice this time. As I asked before, also, make sure your motion sensor is not in any scenes. Link to comment
cfoliaco Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Hi, first make a troubleshoot, trying to setup the program part by part. Add a line and try. Maybe you can try configuring a scene with MS and switches, then MS set to On Only and Night only modes, then program a short timer for the day and 5mins timer after 11:00pm. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 jam583, are the programs working the way you want? Link to comment
Jason Miller Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 All is working!!! Thank you. Link to comment
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