GDavis01 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I recognize that some of these issues may have been discussed numerous times before but I have seen conflicting information on some so I felt that it is prudent to ask a few questions, before I head down this road... I have 2 ISY's (home & cottage), both on v.5.0.7. I just purchased a Amazon Echo so I am looking at the ISY Portal. My questions: - I previously had the Mobilinc Connect Portal, although I haven't used it in a year. It still shows as 'active'. In order to use the ISY Portal, am I correct that I need to send an email, with my uuid #, to "support@universal-devices.com" to request that the Mobilinc Connect portal be deleted from my ISY? - I continue to use Mobilinc as my main method to access my ISY's via my iPhone. I connect to both using a DDNS service and I rely on the Geofencing to update my state variables which trigger numerous programs. This feature works very well. I have read conflicting information on the ability to use Geofencing with Mobilinc and the ISY Portal! My understanding is that if I want to continue to use the Geofencing ability after installling the ISY Portal, then I have to continue to access my ISY's with Mobilinc using port forwarding (or DDNS service) and not try to use the ISY Portal... Is this correct and does it work? - Do I need to buy the ISY Portal for both ISY's? Link to comment
andyf0 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1. Yes, you cannot use both at the same time. 2. With previous versions of MobiLinc you couldn't update a variable via the ISY Portal. This seems to be fixed with the latest version of MobiLinc. So Geofencing may work with MobiLinc and the ISY Portal now. I haven't tried it. I much prefer using Locative on IOS now for my Geofencing. I like the ability of Locative to have separate fences for leaving and arriving. 3. That's a good question. Someone else may know the answer. Link to comment
bmercier Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 My understanding is that if I want to continue to use the Geofencing ability after installling the ISY Portal, then I have to continue to access my ISY's with Mobilinc using port forwarding (or DDNS service) and not try to use the ISY Portal... Is this correct and does it work? You can use Mobilinc to connect to ISY Portal. Once on ISY Portal, if you want to use Geofencing, I would recommend to use ISY Portal node server occupancy module. You can create different fences that maps to virtual devices on ISY, representing occupancy for your various geo fences. Geo fence triggering can be done using Locative. Benoit Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hi GMD99, With regards to 3, yes, unfortunately. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
GDavis01 Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 You can use Mobilinc to connect to ISY Portal. Once on ISY Portal, if you want to use Geofencing, I would recommend to use ISY Portal node server occupancy module. You can create different fences that maps to virtual devices on ISY, representing occupancy for your various geo fences. Geo fence triggering can be done using Locative. Benoit Thanks... I have setup the Geofencing using the ISY Portal node server occupancy module. So far my testing has mixed results... I can see that the leaving and arriving times on Locative are accurate and being recorded. However, I have programs, on the ISY, that notify me when I leave or arrive based on the node being True or False. So far I am only receiving some of these... it hasn't seemed consistent! However, it is quite possible that it's due to things I am doing wrong! More testing required... unfortunately, this is not an easy thing to bench test!! I have to leave and reenter the fenced area and look for an email... I can't ever see the node being "False" on the Admin Console, since I am home and it shows as "True"! I will continue to test... A question... (I am fairly new to the Portal, and I am trying to understand the concept of "Users"...) can I add my wife as a Portal User and, with Locative on her phone, set up a Occupancy Location (Home) Node and separate Names (mine and hers) sub-Nodes such that when either of us are "Home" the Location node would show as True, or if we are both away the node would show as "False"? Link to comment
GDavis01 Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hi GMD99, With regards to 3, yes, unfortunately. With kind regards, Michel Michel... It makes sense that I would need to buy the Portal for each ISY. Thanks. Link to comment
andyf0 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Thanks... I have setup the Geofencing using the ISY Portal node server occupancy module. So far my testing has mixed results... I can see that the leaving and arriving times on Locative are accurate and being recorded. However, I have programs, on the ISY, that notify me when I leave or arrive based on the node being True or False. So far I am only receiving some of these... it hasn't seemed consistent! However, it is quite possible that it's due to things I am doing wrong! More testing required... unfortunately, this is not an easy thing to bench test!! I have to leave and reenter the fenced area and look for an email... I can't ever see the node being "False" on the Admin Console, since I am home and it shows as "True"! I will continue to test... A question... (I am fairly new to the Portal, and I am trying to understand the concept of "Users"...) can I add my wife as a Portal User and, with Locative on her phone, set up a Occupancy Location (Home) Node and separate Names (mine and hers) sub-Nodes such that when either of us are "Home" the Location node would show as True, or if we are both away the node would show as "False"? You can setup network resources to call the same URLs that Locative uses to force a Home and Away situation. That way you can debug your home and away code without leaving the house. This will set your device to TRUE. POST /api/location/ <insert key here> /report/in HTTP/1.1 Host: my.isy.io:443 User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 Connection: Close Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded Content-Length: 0 Change the word "in" in the URL to "out" to set your device to FALSE. For you & your wife I would imagine you have one location called Home and two devices, my iPhone & Wife's iPhone. Then you can test both of them to be false for Away or one of them to be true for Home. I don't think you need two users on the portal. Link to comment
GDavis01 Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Interesting!! How do I edit the Network Resource to insert "/api/location/<insert key here>/report/in" I have not done that before?? Link to comment
GDavis01 Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Forget that POST!! I know how to do that!! Link to comment
bmercier Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 An easier way to test is to just type the URL in a browser. https://my.isy.io/api/location/<insertkey here>/report/in The URL can be triggered either with a POST or a GET. Benoit Link to comment
andyf0 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I setup network resources to do this because once in blue moon Locative will decide I've left the area when the phone is just sitting on the table. So I have programs to correct that and fix the mess caused by ISY thinking I've left the area when I'm sitting watching TV. Link to comment
bmercier Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I setup network resources to do this because once in blue moon Locative will decide I've left the area when the phone is just sitting on the table. So I have programs to correct that and fix the mess caused by ISY thinking I've left the area when I'm sitting watching TV. Then I think the geofence radius is too small. I would recommend to increase the radius to at least 2-3 houses away. In most use cases, we don't that much accuracy. Unless you have family or friends real close. Benoit Link to comment
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