Greenfield ASV / IOLinc connections revisited

[GQuack]

Greetings, I am trying to hookup my Greenfield ASV 100 water valve. I've read multiple posts on this forum which contain different information on how to hook this up or perhaps the differences are between the ELK version and the Greenfield version of the valve.

 

One thread is here:

 

https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/19654-elk-water-shutoff-valve-and-insteon-io-linc/page-1?hl=greenfield

 

With these specific instructions posted by Brian H.

Connect the +12 volt power supply voltage to the IO Linc Relay Common.

Connect the -12 volt power supply to the Black wire on the valve and relay coil.

With the Red on the NC and White on NO the valve will be closed when the IO Linc is Off.

When the relay in the IO Linc is switched. The +12 volt power on the IO Linc relay common terminal is switched between open and closed valve inputs.

Indication of status.

Wire the Green from the valve to one of the relay coils terminals.

Wire the other relay coil terminal to the 12 volt common of the power supply. That is also connected to the Black Valve wire.

Then use the dry relay contacts of the relay. Wired to the Sensor and Common Inputs.

The second post is here:

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/12765-elk-wsv2-for-less/?hl=greenfield

 

With these instructions posted by Xanthros. This is the method I tried first with no success; the Greenfield valve did not respond at all even though it appears the IOLinc status is showing correctly within the ISY.

 

For Power, Red to the power source +12, Black to the power source ground.

For Valve Control, Black to the IOLinc Relay Com, White to IOLinc Relay N/O

For Feedback, Green to IOLinc Gnd, Purple to IOLinc Sense.

Turn relay On to Open valve.

When the valve is Open, the IOLinc sensor will report On.

I am just trying to confirm I have the right instructions (Xanthros), and if so, I need to figure out why I am not getting the valve to respond.

 

Thoughts from anyone???

 

Thank you.

Edited November 17, 2017 by GQuack

[GQuack]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.

 

I'm assuming I need to apologize for something I've said or done or not said or not done in the past on this forum. Can't remember a post that's lasted 10 hours without a comment or helpful suggestion much less 10 days. The folks here have been very helpful and knowledgeable.

 

Guess I'll get out the voltmeter and see if I can figure it out through trial and error. Don't really want to experiment with figuring this out while messing with the home water supply plus having to crawl under the house to do it.

[larryllix]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.

 

I'm assuming I need to apologize for something I've said or done or not said or not done in the past on this forum. Can't remember a post that's lasted 10 hours without a comment or helpful suggestion much less 10 days. The folks here have been very helpful and knowledgeable.

 

Guess I'll get out the voltmeter and see if I can figure it out through trial and error. Don't really want to experiment with figuring this out while messing with the home water supply plus having to crawl under the house to do it.

You assume incorrectly AFAIC.

 

Sometimes people, knowledgeable about you subject matter, just dont see your post.

 

Most here would like to help you and I have never noticed any negatives from your nickname.

 

This may jog more people to see it.

 

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[stusviews]

One step at a time: Supply the valve with 12VDC, the valve red wire is (+) and the valve black wire is (-). Connect the power supply (+) to the I/O Linc Com. Connect the valve white wire to the I/O Linc NO if you want the valve to remain normally closed (no fluid flow); connect the white wire to the I/O Linc NC if you want the valve to be normally open. "Normal" means that no signal is sent to the I/O Linc.

 

Send an On signal to the I/O Linc, send an Off signal to the I/O Linc. Does the valve function correctly?

[GQuack]

Thank you stusviews. Makes sense to me to want the valve normally open providing fluid flow and sending Off to stop the flow. I’ll try that connection early in the week, raining where I am now. To confirm: the IOLinc should be set to “Latching?”

[stusviews]

Yes, "Latching" is the correct mode. Although the momentary time window shows, the setting has no effect when latching is selected.

[GQuack]

Hi stusviews, I was able to get back to this project today. Good news, the valve is responding to the IOLinc. Relay On, valve is open, Relay Off, valve is closed. I did go ahead and connect the valve Green to IOLinc Ground, valve Purple to IOLinc Sense per Xanthros' post as I was reworking the wiring anyway. The sensor back to the ISY shows ON, when the valve is OFF, OFF when the valve is ON. I'm not sure having those logically reversed makes any difference to me. Any decision making logic will be based on leak sensors around the house, etc and not the status of the sensor unless I am missing something?? Next I'll start getting the link sensors added to the ISY and put some thought into adding logic for turning off the main valve programmatically. Thank you for your help!

[stusviews]

Green and orange instead of green and purple should reverse the response of the open vs. close sensor.

[GQuack]

I follow; went back to the ASV documentation and understand the feedback difference given the option of wiring for NO versus NC. Makes total sense, thank you!

Edited November 29, 2017 by GQuack