Google Home doesn't understand and operates wrong devices

[larryllix]

This problem has been getting worse as time goes on. I have just added a third Home Mini along with my 3 x Dots, 1 Echo and an ecobee4 (Alexa).

 

The problem seems to be Google Home only listens to the first and last vocal words of the device. Alexa has and always works fine using the same vocal syntax.

 

In the past, I discovered I had to change my vocal "All Lights" because GH determines this is every device in my home (despite my definitions), including the rear doorbell, workshop dust collector, water well pump and a few other gooodies. Not a good scenario and almost useless, if not dangerous.

 

Then I discovered that any rooms I had assigned to devices  in the Google app may be assuming the word "lights" (plural), means every light in that room grouping. (that I think Google mistakenly called a Room instead of a group?). I had to create a ridiculous room name "Unassigned", because like most Google AI, it will never "let go" of an idea leaving the user frustrated with assumptions, they don't want. After 2-3 hour of searching, I couldn't find a way to actually remove an item from a room once assigned. It knows more about what I want,  than I do,  I suppose

 

Anyway, here is the latest google Assumptive Intelligence. with about 20 different devices involved that it thinks I want operated together. All devices are only operated by ISY programs.

 

• Alexa. Turn on red lights..Turns on red coloured LEDs in Gathering room...works perfectly
• Alexa. Turn on red bedroom lights. Turns on red coloured LEDs in bedroom...works perfectly

 

• Hey google! Turn on red lights...Turns on red lights in Gathering room....works perfectly
• Hey google! Turn on red bedroom lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in Gathering room to red.

 

• Interestingly enough. There are no cross programs or confusion in ISY or the portal. It's just Google making ridiculous  AI assumptions again.

 

As a test I tried this, reformatting ISY portal vocals.

• Hey google! Turn on red lights...Turns on red lights in Gathering room....works perfectly
• Hey google! Turn on red bed lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in gathering room to red.
• Hey google! Turn on bedroom red lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in gathering room to red.

 

This is being repeated for every colour, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, mauve as well as white sequences every light in both rooms through every program controlling the whole colour spectrum. So with 

• Hey google! Turn on white bedroom lights....9 LED string take turn flashing through 7-8 colours and then end up with a random colour or white.

 

Note: These are direct devices but rather all programs, one for each colour in each room.

 

As much as I think the google home minis have a much smoother feel, look, sound, and operation than amazon Dots,  google's AI drives me crazy trying to tell me what I want. grrrrrrrr...

 

Short of throwing a brick through google factory's  front door here, anybody have any suggestions? Even how to delete all these things and start over. Somehow I doubt the app will ever forget anything no matter how hard I try to delete it and/or reformat my mobile devices, or even smack the pres in the head as he comes out the door of  the google factory.

[larryllix]

I have discovered that Google Home can only understand two words and does not understand three word in a phrase.

 

• "Hey google! Turn on red lights"...Turns on red lights in Gathering room....as per vocal in ISY Portal
• "Hey google! Turn on red bedroom lights"...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more red LED systems in gathering room.

 

• Google Home makes assumptions that other devices matching  two words of the three word phrase vocals are the same grouping

 

 

• "Hey google! Turn on bedroom red" ...turns on just the red bedroom lights and it echoes the correct phrase from the ISY portal translation database
• ..."Turning on red bedroom lights"

Google Home finds the most closely named device and operates the correct device despite the vocal not matching it. Google Home is using only the first two words of my vocal and making assumptions on the third key word..

 

 

 

1. Is this a deficiency in the ISY portal software or something that Google is causing?

 

2. Is there a way to turn off this Google Home grouping assumption stupidity in the app somewhere?

 

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[asbril]

This problem has been getting worse as time goes on. I have just added a third Home Mini along with my 3 x Dots, 1 Echo and an ecobee4 (Alexa).

 

The problem seems to be Google Home only listens to the first and last vocal words of the device. Alexa has and always works fine using the same vocal syntax.

 

In the past, I discovered I had to change my vocal "All Lights" because GH determines this is every device in my home (despite my definitions), including the rear doorbell, workshop dust collector, water well pump and a few other gooodies. Not a good scenario and almost useless, if not dangerous.

 

Then I discovered that any rooms I had assigned to devices  in the Google app may be assuming the word "lights" (plural), means every light in that room grouping. (that I think Google mistakenly called a Room instead of a group?). I had to create a ridiculous room name "Unassigned", because like most Google AI, it will never "let go" of an idea leaving the user frustrated with assumptions, they don't want. After 2-3 hour of searching, I couldn't find a way to actually remove an item from a room once assigned. It knows more about what I want,  than I do,  I suppose

 

Anyway, here is the latest google Assumptive Intelligence. with about 20 different devices involved that it thinks I want operated together. All devices are only operated by ISY programs.

 

• Alexa. Turn on red lights..Turns on red coloured LEDs in Gathering room...works perfectly
• Alexa. Turn on red bedroom lights. Turns on red coloured LEDs in bedroom...works perfectly

 

• Hey google! Turn on red lights...Turns on red lights in Gathering room....works perfectly
• Hey google! Turn on red bedroom lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in Gathering room to red.

 

• Interestingly enough. There are no cross programs or confusion in ISY or the portal. It's just Google making ridiculous  AI assumptions again.

 

As a test I tried this, reformatting ISY portal vocals.

• Hey google! Turn on red lights...Turns on red lights in Gathering room....works perfectly
• Hey google! Turn on red bed lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in gathering room to red.
• Hey google! Turn on bedroom red lights...turns on red bedroom lights and then turns on 8 more LED systems in gathering room to red.

 

This is being repeated for every colour, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, mauve as well as white sequences every light in both rooms through every program controlling the whole colour spectrum. So with 

• Hey google! Turn on white bedroom lights....9 LED string take turn flashing through 7-8 colours and then end up with a random colour or white.

 

Note: These are direct devices but rather all programs, one for each colour in each room.

 

As much as I think the google home minis have a much smoother feel, look, sound, and operation than amazon Dots,  google's AI drives me crazy trying to tell me what I want. grrrrrrrr...

 

Short of throwing a brick through google factory's  front door here, anybody have any suggestions? Even how to delete all these things and start over. Somehow I doubt the app will ever forget anything no matter how hard I try to delete it and/or reformat my mobile devices, or even smack the pres in the head as he comes out the door of  the google factory.

Larry,   Red Lights in your bedroom ?????????

[larryllix]

Larry,   Red Lights in your bedroom ?????????

Only when I am alone. Sometimes I use blue, purple, mauve, or indigo, but never green.

 

I have a program turn them off in 2 hours. Just-in-case.

[asbril]

Only when I am alone. Sometimes I use blue, purple, mauve, or indigo, but never green.

 

I have a program turn them off in 2 hours. Just-in-case.

I lived in Amsterdam..... You don't want to have red lights in your bedroom there