Z wave temp for Sauna

[adamthp]

I am on a quest to figure out how to get my sauna temp into my ISY. I really need temp sensor that is good up to at least 200F. I may be able to do this with a Brultech GEM if I pull the trigger on that system, but I would't mind a back up temp sensor, and something I can implement right away. 

A DS18B20 temp sensor would work fine, I just need a way to get that into the ISY. A Fibaro Universal Binary Sensor (FGBS-321) would be perfect if they sold it in the US. I am curious if the                Fibaro FGK-101 with a DS18B20 would be an option, but I can't find anything that states the reporting temp range, and even then if the high temps would show up in the ISY correctly. 

Any other ideas?

Thanks

[Hurting2Ride]

10 hours ago, adamthp said:

I am on a quest to figure out how to get my sauna temp into my ISY. I really need temp sensor that is good up to at least 200F. I may be able to do this with a Brultech GEM if I pull the trigger on that system, but I would't mind a back up temp sensor, and something I can implement right away. 

I'd love to hear about whatever you come up with.  That might even get me to pull the trigger on adding Z-wave if that's what it takes .

[Bumbershoot]

18 hours ago, adamthp said:

Any other ideas?

This may not be appropriate for your installation, but the CAO outdoor probe might fill the bill nicely.  It's not Z-Wave, but there are several ways to get data from this device into your ISY (I'm utilizing the Polyglot Wireless Tags nodeserver).  I'm using a couple of their cheaper tags to monitor the temperature in my freezers, as well as having them in my attic and crawl space.  They're holding up well, and aside from having to replace the batteries periodically, they've been maintenance free and reliable, even outside.

[simplextech]

This is not a z-wave solution, but it is possible/capable to use with the Ambient Weather nodeserver to get the temperature data.

 

https://www.ambientweather.com/amws14kit.html

Using this floating thermometer and a console that sends the data to Ambientweather.net the polyglot can pull the data into ISY.  

[adamthp]

3 hours ago, Bumbershoot said:

This may not be appropriate for your installation, but the CAO outdoor probe might fill the bill nicely.  It's not Z-Wave, but there are several ways to get data from this device into your ISY (I'm utilizing the Polyglot Wireless Tags nodeserver).  I'm using a couple of their cheaper tags to monitor the temperature in my freezers, as well as having them in my attic and crawl space.  They're holding up well, and aside from having to replace the batteries periodically, they've been maintenance free and reliable, even outside.

I actually ordered a setup last night. @Scottmichaelj turned me on to them. I'll report back with how it pans out. 

[adamthp]

2 hours ago, simplextech said:

This is not a z-wave solution, but it is possible/capable to use with the Ambient Weather nodeserver to get the temperature data.

 

https://www.ambientweather.com/amws14kit.html

Using this floating thermometer and a console that sends the data to Ambientweather.net the polyglot can pull the data into ISY.  

I'll keep this in the back burner if the Cao setup is a bust. 

Thanks!

[rccoleman]

I’m using a Z-Uno board with a DS18B20 Onewire sensor and it’s working well. You’d need a small breadboard, some simple wiring, and a bit of coding, but it’s all spelled out here: https://z-uno.z-wave.me/examples/1-wire-ds18b20-temperature-sensor/

On the plus side, it’s AC powered and on all the time, and the report rate can be as fast as every 1-2s. Overkill if you’re just looking for ambient temp, but it may be helpful.

[palayman]

47 minutes ago, adamthp said:

I'll keep this in the back burner if the Cao setup is a bust. 

Thanks!

Love my Cao stuff.  Sure it won't be a bust.

Paul

[adamthp]

14 minutes ago, rccoleman said:

I’m using a Z-Uno board with a DS18B20 Onewire sensor and it’s working well. You’d need a small breadboard, some simple wiring, and a bit of coding, but it’s all spelled out here: https://z-uno.z-wave.me/examples/1-wire-ds18b20-temperature-sensor/

On the plus side, it’s AC powered and on all the time, and the report rate can be as fast as every 1-2s. Overkill if you’re just looking for ambient temp, but it may be helpful.

Also cool. I haven't played with the Z-Uno at all... and by no means do I know a damn thing about coding.... but that looks like it may even be achievable for me. 

Thanks!

[rccoleman]

Just now, adamthp said:

Also cool. I haven't played with the Z-Uno at all... and by no means do I know a damn thing about coding.... but that looks like it may even be achievable for me. 

Thanks!

It’s a fun project, and can do practically anything. It’s a little expensive for a single task, but I couldn’t find any alternatives for my use case and it’s now taken over a second task, so I feel like I’m getting my money’s worth. 

[glacier991]

I just ordered the outdoor module from CAO for just this purpose. I have some DS18b20 waterproof sensors I will attach on long leads to measure water temps. I have a raspberry pi running polyglot with the via plug in for wireless tag devices ( there is one for 1 wire as well).it works great!

Price wise you will need  pi ($50 with power supply and case) and the CAP outdoor module with a sensor ($60)...the Z uno solution would be cheaper but add cost of waterproofing etc.

I am going to explore z wave uno for my own purposes, but strongly recommend polyglot.

Chris

 

 

[adamthp]

Just wanted to update on what I have found. @Hurting2Ride

I just hooked up my new Cao outdoor module and a SEN0227 temp/humidity sensor in my sauna. I am using the Cao polyglot node server to connect to my ISY.

I have only run one sauna cycle, so no comments on anything past initial setup.

My main purpose for this is to notify me when my sauna is up to prime person cooking temperature. I'm using a pushover notification and a google home relay notification to do this. I was expecting to just set this up as if sauna temp is = to 170 run notifications, but the temperature option only goes up to 150. Instead I have you used the monitor temperature from Cao to trigger a 'Too High' notification when the temperature goes above 170. I then used 'temperature state' 'too high' to trigger my notification program. I am not getting the humidity data through the node server, but that was more just out of curiosity than anything else. 

I am eagerly waiting for my GEM from Brultech to show up. I'm going to hook up DS18B20 to the GEM from the Sauna to compare to the Cao.