smithlevenson Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 I hope this is the right place on the forum. I am very interested in a water cutoff valve. I have some requirements though. 1) Needs to play nice with ISY and Insteon water leak sensors, and switches to cut power to Ice Machine if water is turned off 2) Needs Smart Control - I want it to recognize a running toilet that would drain the well. 3) Work with no power or internet. Internet: Similar to the insteon dimmer switches once programmed. No Power: Cut itself off if the Power is out and a leak is detected (I have a generator, but I want it as fail safe as possible). 3) I prefer an open API. I don't really want to have to a single purpose app. Has anyone used anything that would meet 1-2, if not 3-4 as well?
Scottmichaelj Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 You can do a whole home water shutoff with Elk if you have it.
smithlevenson Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Scottmichaelj said: You can do a whole home water shutoff with Elk if you have it. I don't. I have a Vista 20p at that house. I really need something smart that can tell a running toilet from a sprinkler. But if it turns off the water it has to cut the ice machine off too or it will fry itself. The leak sensors seem like the easy part with an ISY, but only it can easily communicate with the WCV.
Scottmichaelj Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 I had Flo and it was just ok and they charge $5 a month for the extra subscription for the fine details. I also had the water shutoff on me about a dozen times bc it thought there was a leak. I prefer the water leak with auto shutoff method myself.
smithlevenson Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Scottmichaelj said: I had Flo and it was just ok and they charge $5 a month for the extra subscription for the fine details. I also had the water shutoff on me about a dozen times bc it thought there was a leak. I prefer the water leak with auto shutoff method myself. Interesting. This is going to be in a vacation home. I would normally prefer the manual cutoff as well, but the toilet running overnight and draining the well, which takes almost 24 hours to recharge, is the main reason for getting it. I think I would rather it cutoff too much than not at all.
Scottmichaelj Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Interesting. This is going to be in a vacation home. I would normally prefer the manual cutoff as well, but the toilet running overnight and draining the well, which takes almost 24 hours to recharge, is the main reason for getting it. I think I would rather it cutoff too much than not at all. Understand. Not everything works for everyone. Thats what makes having access to all these things so great. However I do have water leak detectors by all water locations so the auto shutoff works well for my needs. You can change the water size in the Flo app to turn the water back on, but I had some growing pains getting it tweaked. It was a bit inconvenient when I was showering then the water turned off!
TomL Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Probably not the best or streamlined idea, but why not put a second cutoff on toilet supply, trigger it with motion or door sensor to turn on when tripped and shutoff after a countdown timer from the door sensor opening or no ocuupancy. This would give the toilet time to fill and you wouldn't have to worry about toilet running when house is being used and draining the well either. You can use this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X9LWXMW/?coliid=I3IOG340V1R46H&colid=3RV71YDQOJ1JF&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it a 24v wall wart and a plug in on/off module.
smithlevenson Posted July 29, 2019 Author Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 7:30 AM, TomL said: Probably not the best or streamlined idea, but why not put a second cutoff on toilet supply, trigger it with motion or door sensor to turn on when tripped and shutoff after a countdown timer from the door sensor opening or no ocuupancy. This would give the toilet time to fill and you wouldn't have to worry about toilet running when house is being used and draining the well either. You can use this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X9LWXMW/?coliid=I3IOG340V1R46H&colid=3RV71YDQOJ1JF&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it a 24v wall wart and a plug in on/off module. So add an IO linc or something to that? That is inelegant, but could be effective. It also keeps the rest of the house functioning when one area has an issue. This is not a simple use case because it really needs to work most in an unmonitored situation. What would be great is a smart valve that detected the issue and started shutting off individual water valves until it identified the issue(s).
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