Turning Elk door chime on/off via ISY program?

[ctownj30]

Is this possible?  I've been through the documentation and don't see a way but hope that I'm missing something.

I want to create a program to turn the chime off for a few minutes then turn it back on.

Help appreciated - djm

[TrojanHorse]

Is this possible?  I've been through the documentation and don't see a way but hope that I'm missing something.
I want to create a program to turn the chime off for a few minutes then turn it back on.
Help appreciated - djm

I’m pretty sure you can do this with a phantom output. Did you look into that?

If not, first check ElkRp to see that you can create a rule that controls the chime - I’m pretty sure you can. Then have the Elk rule look for a change in an output status. Use something like output 101 for example that won’t be used by anything else.


For example have 2 elk rules
If Output 101 turns on
Then disable chime

If output 101 turns off
Then enable chime.

Then write an ISY program that controls this output.

Make note of the output you use since you can’t name these higher numbered outputs.


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[ctownj30]

Thanks for the help Trojan - yes it looks like there is an "Enable/Disable Chine" option in a rule - so as you noted I set up a couple rules to toggle the chime based on Output 100 (attached).  These rules work fine when I test them in ElkRP.

However for some reason, my ISY program does not seem to be able to trigger them - its just a basic "Set Elk Output 'Output 100' On" in a Then statement.

I cannot tell if the ISY is not affecting the Output (cannot see where to view Output statuses) or whether the Elk is not responding to the change.  I do not see anything in the Log.  I have confirmed that the Elk is responding to other commands from the ISY (like arm/disarm).

Any troubleshooting ideas?

-djm

 

 

[ctownj30]

NEVERMIND - did not realize you had to disconnect ElkRP before sending from the ISY - all working now - thanks for your help.

[dbwarner5]

2 hours ago, ctownj30 said:

NEVERMIND - did not realize you had to disconnect ElkRP before sending from the ISY - all working now - thanks for your help.

Ha.. been burned by that a few times as well. Only one thing can be connected to the Elk at a time. RP or ISY. Makes testing a bit of a pain. 

Related question. I have quite a few "announcements" that the Elk makes via ISY programming. Additionally the Elk makes its own announcements this same way ie for Arming the security at night, it will announce --> Main house armed. etc..  These announcements utilize the PA-out of the Elk to a PA-in for a whole house sound system.

So needless to say, my wife (and guests) dont like to hear annoucnements at midnight when I've armed the system across the whole house. So in the Elk I have written  a rule that disables sound from 11pm to 7am. What is strange is that it still often "starts" to say things and then abruptly stops, and then in the morning, when it is making a legitimate announcement, it seems to have to first "purge" the ones that it didnt make when it was disabled. It ends up become just garbage. 

however during the day, after this is all worked out, all is fine for any daytime announcements.

I know I can go to an Elk forum for more, just havent, and am putting this out there in case anyone has any ideas.. thanks.  

[TrojanHorse]

Ha.. been burned by that a few times as well. Only one thing can be connected to the Elk at a time. RP or ISY. Makes testing a bit of a pain. 
Related question. I have quite a few "announcements" that the Elk makes via ISY programming. Additionally the Elk makes its own announcements this same way ie for Arming the security at night, it will announce --> Main house armed. etc..  These announcements utilize the PA-out of the Elk to a PA-in for a whole house sound system.
So needless to say, my wife (and guests) dont like to hear annoucnements at midnight when I've armed the system across the whole house. So in the Elk I have written  a rule that disables sound from 11pm to 7am. What is strange is that it still often "starts" to say things and then abruptly stops, and then in the morning, when it is making a legitimate announcement, it seems to have to first "purge" the ones that it didnt make when it was disabled. It ends up become just garbage. 
however during the day, after this is all worked out, all is fine for any daytime announcements.
I know I can go to an Elk forum for more, just havent, and am putting this out there in case anyone has any ideas.. thanks.  

Yeah been burned by that single Elk connection too. Separate issue but during the times when I’ve shut down the Elk to add something and my ISY motion programs that use Elk sensors don’t work and will turn off lights since no motion was detected - could / should look into programming around this but isn’t a frequent issue.

Post your Elk programs. Maybe in a new thread. I toggle non essential voice announcements, not sure if that’s the same as what you’re doing.


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[dbwarner5]

9 hours ago, TrojanHorse said:

Post your Elk programs. Maybe in a new thread. I toggle non essential voice announcements, not sure if that’s the same as what you’re doing.

Thanks,  Will do sometime soon in a new thread. Maybe a few days as I have to drag out an old pc (am Mac based) and by the time it does 20 updates or so, I can then connect to my Elk and copy it.. lol 

An example of this is this morning. At 630am, isy disarms my Elk as part of morning routines. Then at 830 I turned on some "heat matts" that lead to my hot tub (live in northern michigan and its still trying to snow here!). An ISY program monitors the heat Matt to auto turn it off after 90 minutes and also it "announces" via the ELK that they are on (and when they go off). The point here is that the announcement that came on when I turned the heat matts was first preceded by "The house is disarmed", followed by my heat Matt on announcement. Its like the auto elk announcement of disarming was in a "cue" and gets triggered by the subsequent announcement. 

Thanks,. 

[TrojanHorse]

Thanks,  Will do sometime soon in a new thread. Maybe a few days as I have to drag out an old pc (am Mac based) and by the time it does 20 updates or so, I can then connect to my Elk and copy it.. lol 
An example of this is this morning. At 630am, isy disarms my Elk as part of morning routines. Then at 830 I turned on some "heat matts" that lead to my hot tub (live in northern michigan and its still trying to snow here!). An ISY program monitors the heat Matt to auto turn it off after 90 minutes and also it "announces" via the ELK that they are on (and when they go off). The point here is that the announcement that came on when I turned the heat matts was first preceded by "The house is disarmed", followed by my heat Matt on announcement. Its like the auto elk announcement of disarming was in a "cue" and gets triggered by the subsequent announcement. 
Thanks,. 

Sounds like you’ve chosen an option that queues them rather than silence them? Is it all done in Elk? What’s done on ISY side?

BTW I feel bad for Matt


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[dbwarner5]

7 hours ago, TrojanHorse said:

BTW I feel bad for Matt

lol. thanks. for that.. needed it...:) 

Will find and connect the PC tomorrow and post the elk program. 

[dbwarner5]

I have started a new thread under the Elk topic to continue this. 

thanks!