Brad Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Had a weird thing happen to me tonight when adding an Insteon On/Off module. After linking the Insteon module, a new Z-Wave device appeared in the device list. I have a Z-Wave outlet module that was registered as ZW002_1. I've had it linked for over a year with no problems. After adding the new Insteon device, the mystery Z-Wave device has an address of ZW002_184 and is listed as a Barrier device. I have no barrier devices that I'm aware of. The only other Z-Wave devices I have are a thermostat (ZW004_1) and an alarm panel(ZW003_1) and a sub-device of the alarm panel(ZW003_119). The ZW002_1 device is linked to the alarm panel so I can monitor the armed/disarmed state of my security system. Could one of the automatic updates of the security panel firmware have caused a virtual device to have been created? ISY 994i/IR ProFirmware: 5.0.16CZ-Wave: 21100 Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Brad said: Had a weird thing happen to me tonight when adding an Insteon On/Off module. After linking the Insteon module, a new Z-Wave device appeared in the device list. I have a Z-Wave outlet module that was registered as ZW002_1. I've had it linked for over a year with no problems. After adding the new Insteon device, the mystery Z-Wave device has an address of ZW002_184 and is listed as a Barrier device. I have no barrier devices that I'm aware of. The only other Z-Wave devices I have are a thermostat (ZW004_1) and an alarm panel(ZW003_1) and a sub-device of the alarm panel(ZW003_119). The ZW002_1 device is linked to the alarm panel so I can monitor the armed/disarmed state of my security system. Could one of the automatic updates of the security panel firmware have caused a virtual device to have been created? ISY 994i/IR ProFirmware: 5.0.16CZ-Wave: 21100 Probably not. Zwave creates new nodes sometimes. Just delete it. Then choose zwave>options>freeze nodes to prevent that from happening Link to comment
asbril Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 lilyoyo1, that is for me hardly a solution. The freeze option unfreezes when restarting the AC and then whatever was deleted will eventually come back. I have given up (so far) on permanent solution and created a "phantom devices" folder where I put those nodes. Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, asbril said: lilyoyo1, that is for me hardly a solution. The freeze option unfreezes when restarting the AC and then whatever was deleted will eventually come back. I have given up (so far) on permanent solution and created a "phantom devices" folder where I put those nodes. I haven't had that issue. I do the same when I initially set up devices but then choose freeze once done. So far I haven't seen any new nodes but time will tell. I also dont look at my device tree unless I need something specific so that may contribute to why I haven't noticed Link to comment
asbril Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: I haven't had that issue. I do the same when I initially set up devices but then choose freeze once done. So far I haven't seen any new nodes but time will tell. I also dont look at my device tree unless I need something specific so that may contribute to why I haven't noticed I am not sure that "unfreeze" happens every time I open the AC, but on the average I have 2 or 3 "phantom" nodes a week even when setting the "freeze". Maybe the difference is that I use the AC multiple times every day. Link to comment
lilyoyo1 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, asbril said: I am not sure that "unfreeze" happens every time I open the AC, but on the average I have 2 or 3 "phantom" nodes a week even when setting the "freeze". Maybe the difference is that I use the AC multiple times every day. It could be that too. You also have twice as many zwave devices as I do so more opportunities. Have you tried using the dashboard instead of AC to see if that cuts down? Link to comment
asbril Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, lilyoyo1 said: It could be that too. You also have twice as many zwave devices as I do so more opportunities. Have you tried using the dashboard instead of AC to see if that cuts down? I dont like to use the dashboard and just learned to live with the phantom nodes. One day not too far, I hope, the AC will be replaced with a non-java and smoother software. Link to comment
Brad Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Thanks for the responses. At least it's just not me having a problem. It's just odd how I've had these Z-Wave devices for several years and it just recently started happening. Link to comment
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