Teken Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 For a few hours today I thought this thread might have died, it was nearing 24 hours without a new post. Knowledge can’t be contained - only shared!
upstatemike Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, MrBill said: For a few hours today I thought this thread might have died, it was nearing 24 hours without a new post. ? It will live on as long as Insteon does... so like 2 or 3 more weeks. 1
Teken Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 It will live on as long as Insteon does... so like 2 or 3 more weeks.I knew that was coming . . .
larryllix Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, MrBill said: For a few hours today I thought this thread might have died, it was nearing 24 hours without a new post. ? It did!
Goose66 Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 So, at the risk of getting flamed for not wanting to read 39 pages of posts to catch up, what's the net-net on the new Nokia branded products being compatible with the older Insteon brand products?
larryllix Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Goose66 said: So, at the risk of getting flamed for not wanting to read 39 pages of posts to catch up, what's the net-net on the new Nokia branded products being compatible with the older Insteon brand products? Insteon avoided my direct questions on it. They either do not know, or it's a secret reveal to come.
Teken Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 So, at the risk of getting flamed for not wanting to read 39 pages of posts to catch up, what's the net-net on the new Nokia branded products being compatible with the older Insteon brand products?- Can be physically link no problem - Can be added via ISY but some options are not available or present - The new line will slowly release more core hardware no ETA- Latest hardware allows firmware updates- Multi LED color is present but can’t be changed - yet- No clue if the hardware continues to use the same cheap electrical components - No third party support from Smartlabs 1
lilyoyo1 Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, upstatemike said: Applying this to home automation this is exactly why I have a lot of voice announcements to keep me apprised of what my automation systems are doing. I don't want my Insteon devices taking the house into a death spiral without some warning and a chance to intervene. I never did buy into the idea of "just let the automation system do it's thing without any interaction from the occupants". Just seems that approach has the potential to end badly. I'm the opposite. I want to automate as much as possible. I don't need notifications about what the system is doing since I programmed it to do it. I want notifications for what it's not able to do such as if the locks aren't working or doesn't lock. If I'm going to spend more time confirming stuff happened, then i might as well continue doing stuff on my own. If automating something can cause more harm than it solves, then i don't automate it. Important stuff that is automated are still handled manually first. The system only kicks in when should we fail to do it outselves. For example, I'll still close my garage doors when I leave or come home. However, it's possible that I forget so that's when the system takes over. Same goes for door locks.
MrBill Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, upstatemike said: It will live on as long as Insteon does... so like 2 or 3 more weeks. you should see if they can change your name to doomsdaymike ???? 41 minutes ago, Goose66 said: So, at the risk of getting flamed for not wanting to read 39 pages of posts to catch up, what's the net-net on the new Nokia branded products being compatible with the older Insteon brand products? No one actually knows exactly. When people start their nokia orders there will be entire threads devoted to it, (and why it doesn't work with an ISY, even tho we already know there are no plans to support it).
lilyoyo1 Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teken said: - Can be physically link no problem - Can be added via ISY but some options are not available or present - The new line will slowly release more core hardware no ETA - Latest hardware allows firmware updates - Multi LED color is present but can’t be changed - yet - No clue if the hardware continues to use the same cheap electrical components - No third party support from Smartlabs To clarify some of what Teken said, the Isy will add the devices as unsupported devices. What they are will not show up. You can control devices from the console as far as turning them on, off, and dimming (dimmable devices). The Isy will not display status of the devices if manually controlled. Each switch can be a dimmer or a relay. You would not be able to switch modes. The kpl and dial, are both dimmers by default while the paddle is a relay so all would stay in their default mode. I forgot to add that only the main button on the kpl shows up as well as only the main outlet on the dual outlet Edited September 16, 2021 by lilyoyo1
upstatemike Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, MrBill said: you should see if they can change your name to doomsdaymike ???? I think I kind of like that! Maybe I should look into it.
upstatemike Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: To clarify some of what Teken said, the Isy will add the devices as unsupported devices. What they are will not show up. You can control devices from the console as far as turning them on, off, and dimming (dimmable devices). The Isy will not display status of the devices if manually controlled. Each switch can be a dimmer or a relay. You would not be able to switch modes. The kpl and dial, are both dimmers by default while the paddle is a relay so all would stay in their default mode. Will they respond to a query command from the ISY?
lilyoyo1 Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, upstatemike said: Will they respond to a query command from the ISY? They will update their status in the Isy if queried. Edited September 16, 2021 by lilyoyo1
MrBill Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 20 hours ago, upstatemike said: I think I kind of like that! Maybe I should look into it. it turns out anyone can change their display name. on a computer browser, click your name in the top right corner, then Account Settings, then Display Name...
upstatemike Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, MrBill said: it turns out anyone can change their display name. on a computer browser, click your name in the top right corner, then Account Settings, then Display Name... Cool. Maybe I'll change it to Michel Kohanim and try that out for awhile. 2
Teken Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Cool. Maybe I'll change it to Michel Kohanim and try that out for awhile.Every time I think your replies will be obvious?!? It’s not, and just classic left field home runs!
LarryCRetired Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 larryllix. I just went through a museum in Minden Nebraska that probably had 200 cars back to the very begging until around the model year 1971. I owned 4 of those cars from the early 50's to 1971. I saw a Vega and a Pinto and also some more reliable ones. One sign on some early 1900 cars said tools were very important since you spent as much time fixing as driving. Would I want a car without computer chips, probably not. I hated changing points, distributor caps, plugs and wires and using a timing light. Before we left home I checked the oil only out a 72 year old's habit. My first new car cost me $4,000. My last one $20,000. Sports car - GTO for $4k and basic transportation for $20k - Corolla. In between a 280ZX. Oh. This thread is about Insteon? Sorry I got distracted 1
upstatemike Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 More than 24 hours without a single post from anyone in a community of the most avid fans Insteon has. If somebody wants definitive proof that Insteon is finished this is it! 1 1
lilyoyo1 Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 13 more posts to 1000. WE CAN DO IT!!!! ***12 more after this one Edited September 18, 2021 by lilyoyo1 1
upstatemike Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: 13 more posts to 1000. WE CAN DO IT!!!! ***12 more after this one I'm not going to make pointless posts just to raise the count! Oh wait... 3
lilyoyo1 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, upstatemike said: I'm not going to make pointless posts just to raise the count! Oh wait... Oh well! There goes that thought
upstatemike Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said: Oh well! There goes that thought I know, right?
asbril Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 12 hours ago, lilyoyo1 said: 13 more posts to 1000. WE CAN DO IT!!!! ***12 more after this one " Insteon being discontinued? " Close to 1000 posts and we still don't have the answer. Some of us are bored and some are boring.
upstatemike Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, asbril said: " Insteon being discontinued? " Close to 1000 posts and we still don't have the answer. Some of us are bored and some are boring. Well I'm not bored so I guess that makes me... insulted? 1
asbril Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, upstatemike said: Well I'm not bored so I guess that makes me... insulted? If the shoe fits ? ?
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