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I have a scene for my garage which is triggered via the REST API. This scene contains 3 devices, two keypads and a micro switch which is tied to the actual light. Both keypads act as a controller for the microswitch. From time to time (about every 2-3 weeks) when this scene is triggered, instead of just turning on the garage light, all but like 5 insteon devices turns on. If it's a dimmer that was on but at like 10%, it will go to 100%.

Looking at the log from the ISY994, there's nothing really, other me frantically turning off all lights again

ISY Log: 

Hallway.Keypad.Lights*	Status	100%	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:15 AM	System	Log	
BedroomH.Keypad.Hallway*	Status	100%	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:15 AM	System	Log	
Hallway.Keypad.Lights*	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:17 AM	System	Log	
BedroomH.Keypad.Hallway*	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:17 AM	System	Log	
BedroomJ.Keypad.Lights*	Error	0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:25 AM	System	Log	
Kitchen.Keypad.Island* / Kitchen.Keypad.Patio	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:33 AM	System	Log	
Bedroom.Switch.Patio*	Status	100%	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:33 AM	System	Log	
DiningArea.Dimmer.Patio	Status	100%	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:33 AM	System	Log	
BedroomH.Keypad.Hallway* / BedroomH.Keypad.Patio	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:33 AM	System	Log	
BedroomJ.Keypad.Lights* / BedroomJ.Keypad.Deck	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:33 AM	System	Log	
Kitchen.Keypad.Island* / Kitchen.Keypad.Patio	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:35 AM	System	Log	
Bedroom.Switch.Patio*	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:35 AM	System	Log	
DiningArea.Dimmer.Patio	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:35 AM	System	Log	
BedroomH.Keypad.Hallway* / BedroomH.Keypad.Patio	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:35 AM	System	Log	
BedroomJ.Keypad.Lights* / BedroomJ.Keypad.Deck	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:45:35 AM	System	Log	
Entryway.Keypad.Lights* / Entryway.Keypad.Front	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:33 AM	System	Log	
Garage.Front.Light*	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:33 AM	System	Log	
Garage.Keypad.Garage / Garage.Keypad.FrontLights	Status	On	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:33 AM	System	Log	
Entryway.Keypad.Lights* / Entryway.Keypad.Front	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:34 AM	System	Log	
Garage.Front.Light*	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:34 AM	System	Log	
Garage.Keypad.Garage / Garage.Keypad.FrontLights	Status	Off	Sat 2021/05/01 12:48:34 AM	System	Log	
Get NodeDef	ZWave	0	Sat 2021/05/01 12:51:38 AM	System	Log

The actual microswitch isn't listed here even (Garage.Lights*)

The error log for the same period:

  Sat 2021/05/01 01:01:32 AM    System    -10    [UNKNOWN     ] 02 FA     

This time I decided to open the admin console and see if I could get more details.

First thing I notice is that the ISY has no clue that this happened, because the dimmers that went from 10% to 100% still show as 10% in the console, the light I haven't turned off yet still show as off.

Second thing I did is try loading the Debug->Show Device Links Table for one of the keypads related to the garage. This results in a blank list. Doing this over for a number of my devices in the network all results in the same, I don't get a list of links. Looking at the event viewer however, I see this: 

Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:02 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 40 FA DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:02 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 FA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:02 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 FA 06        (00):  Duplicate or ACK for a different device 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:02 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 40.FA.DA 40.52.B4 2B 00 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:02 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:11 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 40 FA DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:11 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 FA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:11 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 FA 06        (00):  Duplicate or ACK for a different device 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:12 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 40.FA.DA 40.52.B4 2B 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:12 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:12 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F FF 20 A2 18 40 52 B4 FF 1F 02 82 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:12 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 13 2F 00 00 01 0F FF 20 A2 18 40 52 B4 FF 1F 02 82 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F F7 20 A2 17 40 52 B4 FF 1F 02 8B 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F F7 20 A2 17 40 52 B4 FF 1F 02 8B 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:14 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:15 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F EF 20 A2 04 49 92 30 FF 1F 04 DF 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:15 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:16 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F E7 20 A2 01 42 04 C4 FF 1F 02 ED 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:16 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:17 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F DF 20 E2 04 49 92 30 01 00 04 CC 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:17 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:17 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F D7 20 22 01 54 5C 7D FF 1F 01 5B 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:17 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:18 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F CF 20 22 07 49 92 30 FF 1F 04 7C 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:18 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:19 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F C7 20 A2 05 2B FE 64 FF 1F 01 87 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:19 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:19 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F C7 20 A2 05 2B FE 64 FF 1F 01 87 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:19 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:22 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 13 2F 00 00 01 0F BF 20 A2 00 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 DB 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:22 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:24 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F B7 20 A2 1F 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 C4 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:24 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:25 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F AF 20 A2 2A 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 C1 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:25 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:25 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F A7 20 A2 2D 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 C6 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:25 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:26 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F 9F 20 E2 01 2B FE 64 01 00 01 90 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:26 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:27 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F 97 20 EA 01 2C 85 AF 01 00 01 BD 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:27 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:27 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F 8F 20 EA 01 40 52 B4 01 00 01 DF 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:27 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:28 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 87 20 22 08 49 92 30 FF 1F 04 C3 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:28 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:29 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 87 20 22 08 49 92 30 FF 1F 04 C3 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:29 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:30 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 7F 20 EA 02 40 52 B4 01 00 02 ED 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:30 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:31 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F 77 20 EA 02 42 04 C4 01 00 02 31 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:31 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:32 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 6F 20 EA 03 40 52 B4 01 00 03 FB 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:32 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:32 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F 67 20 EA 04 40 52 B4 01 00 04 01 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:32 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:33 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 67 20 EA 04 40 52 B4 01 00 04 01 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:33 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:34 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F 5F 20 EA 05 40 52 B4 01 00 05 07 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:34 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:34 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 5F 20 EA 05 40 52 B4 01 00 05 07 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:34 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:36 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 57 20 EA 06 40 52 B4 01 00 06 0D 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:36 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:37 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F 4F 20 EA 07 40 52 B4 01 00 07 13 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:37 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:38 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 47 20 EA 08 40 52 B4 01 00 08 19 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:38 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:39 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F 3F 20 A2 21 40 52 B4 FF 1F 03 38 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:39 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:40 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F 3F 20 A2 21 40 52 B4 FF 1F 03 38 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:40 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:41 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F 37 20 E2 03 20 34 99 01 00 03 94 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:41 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:41 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 37 20 E2 03 20 34 99 01 00 03 94 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:41 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:42 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 2F 20 A2 22 40 52 B4 FF 1F 04 46 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:42 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:44 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 27 20 E2 04 23 E6 BC 01 00 04 CA 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:44 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:44 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F 1F 20 62 04 2B A7 B6 01 00 04 8F 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:44 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:45 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 1F 20 62 04 2B A7 B6 01 00 04 8F 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:45 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:45 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 1F 20 62 04 2B A7 B6 01 00 04 8F 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:45 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:46 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 1F 20 62 04 2B A7 B6 01 00 04 8F 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:46 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:47 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F 17 20 22 02 2B A7 B6 FF 1F 04 BC 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:47 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:48 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 0F 0F 20 22 01 23 20 C1 FF 1F 04 49 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:48 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:49 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F 07 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 9A 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:49 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:58 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 40 FA DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:58 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 C2 FA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:58 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 40.FA.DA 1F 2F 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 C2 FA 06        (00):  Duplicate or ACK for a different device 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:59 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 40.FA.DA 40.52.B4 2B 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:59 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:59 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 01 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 9A 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:17:59 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:18:00 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 40 FA DA 40 52 B4 16 2F 00 00 01 01 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 9A 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:18:00 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 40.FA.DA-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:18:04 AM : [All         ] Writing 0 bytes to devices
Sat 05/01/2021 01:18:04 AM : [All         ] Writing 0 bytes to devices
Sat 05/01/2021 01:19:59 AM : [        Time] 01:20:00 20(0)

Which looks like it's getting something.

Doing the same operation for the microswitch does produce a list of 7 links, the event log however seems to show more data coming in: 

Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:56 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:56 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 23 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F FF 00 A2 00 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 BB 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F F7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:57 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F F7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:58 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2F 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:23:58 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:00 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 13 2F 00 00 01 0F F7 00 22 01 54 5C 7D FF 1F 01 5B 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:00 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:00 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F EF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:00 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F EF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:01 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 27 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:01 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:01 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F EF 00 22 01 32 88 79 FF 1F 01 5D 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:01 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:01 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F E7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DA
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:02 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F E7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:02 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 27 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:02 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:03 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 12 2F 00 00 01 0F E7 00 22 01 32 85 EC FF 1F 01 F5 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:03 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:03 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F DF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:03 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F DF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E2 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2F 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F DF 00 A2 01 40 FA DA FF 1F 01 0C 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F D7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 EA
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:04 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F D7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 EA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2F 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 15 2F 00 00 01 0F D7 00 A2 05 2B FE 64 FF 1F 01 97 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F CF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:05 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F CF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F2 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:06 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F D7 00 A2 05 2B FE 64 FF 1F 01 97 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:06 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:06 AM : [Ext MH      ] Unexpected Response (i.e. DB range): ignored
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:07 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F D7 00 A2 05 2B FE 64 FF 1F 01 97 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:07 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:08 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2B 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:08 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:09 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 13 2F 00 00 01 0F CF 00 A2 1F 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 CC 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:09 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:09 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F C7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FA
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:09 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F C7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FA 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:10 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2F 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:10 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:11 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 1B 2F 00 00 01 0F C7 00 A2 2A 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 C9 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:11 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:11 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:11 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:20 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:20 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:20 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 06        (00):  Duplicate or ACK for a different device 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:21 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2B 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:21 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:21 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 11 2F 00 00 01 0F BF 00 A2 2D 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 CE 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:21 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:22 AM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 2C 85 AF 40 52 B4 17 2F 00 00 01 0F BF 00 A2 2D 40 52 B4 FF 1F 01 CE 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:22 AM : [Ext-Direct  ] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:31 AM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 85 AF 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:31 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 02 06        (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:31 AM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 2C.85.AF 1F 2F 00 00 BF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 02 06        (00):  Duplicate or ACK for a different device 
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:32 AM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 2C.85.AF 40.52.B4 2B 2F 00           (00)
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:32 AM : [Std-Direct Ack] 2C.85.AF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:36 AM : [All         ] Writing 0 bytes to devices
Sat 05/01/2021 01:24:36 AM : [All         ] Writing 0 bytes to devices

And when I press the compare button, it would seem I'm right:

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To sum it up if you made it this far :)

1. Scene A contains 2 keypads and 1 micro module (on/off)
2. Scene will be triggered from ISY's REST API
3. 1 out of 100 times, it will not only turn on that light, but almost every other light in the house as well.
4. ISY seems unaware of this, in fact, it doesn't even list the scene as turning on even though the REST call explicitly turn it on
5. Show Device Links for most device is unreliable or doesn't work.

Any advice on this situation would be most appreciated since this tends to happen mostly at night (of course) and it wakes up most of the house when it happens.

 

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Insteon scenes do not show in the event log, and scenes do not confirm they operated.

Try a restore on every device involved. It seems the devices shown have links that are missing or extras that should not be there. The random All On events are factory defined scenes that have been eliminated from newer devices.

Make sure to not send further Insteon commands immediately after operating a scene, especially with KPL devices.

I had an OnOffLinc module randomly send a scene On signal, instead of an ACK back to ISY, when sent an ON command for many months. Unplugging the device, in this case, fixed the problem and it hasn't done it now for about two years. It operates about 12-15 times per day controlling a humidifier.

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Hmmm... I think something else is going on. Today I'm able to fetch the device links from various devices, but when I restore a device, it drops off from communication and it fails the restore halfway through. Doing a query afterwards will get it back in communication again, but restore will always fail.

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Also, I use home assistant to trigger scenes on the ISY so at no point do I use a Control or similar (been burned there before ;-) )

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Zomg, even when I do restore on a device which is on the same circuit as the PLM it fails to do it. What's going on here?

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Things are acting super suspicious. I've moved the PLM to different parts of the house, I've tried restore on various devices and essentially all fails. To top it off, there's no PLM available from the Smarthome store so I can't try replacing the PLM itself if that's the cause.

Any suggestions on how to debug this is most appreciated.

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