Multiple Z-Wave Device Tree Nodes?

[philgood]

Howdy,

So based on the V5:ZWave:Advanced User Guide, I think they are called Device Tree Nodes.  When I installed my first Z-Wave device, I was surprised to see multiple nodes being inserted on to the Device Tree with names like ZW 002 Basic Scene Ctl 2, ZW 002 Basic Scene Ctl 3, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch 2, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch 3, ZW 002 Scene Button 1 and ZW 002 Scene Button 2 but without any obvious controllable parameters. The only nodes that had adjustable parameters were the ones with addresses with a suffix of _1 and those were the ones that I renamed so their names reflected the item they controlled. 

Are the nodes without adjustable parameters just "place holders"?  How are they used?  If they are not needed, can they be deleted?

Is there a resource that covers the next step once you successfully have your Z-Wave switches/outlets/lights working?

Thanks for your time,

phil

[lilyoyo1]

8 hours ago, philgood said:

Howdy,

So based on the V5:ZWave:Advanced User Guide, I think they are called Device Tree Nodes.  When I installed my first Z-Wave device, I was surprised to see multiple nodes being inserted on to the Device Tree with names like ZW 002 Basic Scene Ctl 2, ZW 002 Basic Scene Ctl 3, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch 2, ZW 002 Multilevel Switch 3, ZW 002 Scene Button 1 and ZW 002 Scene Button 2 but without any obvious controllable parameters. The only nodes that had adjustable parameters were the ones with addresses with a suffix of _1 and those were the ones that I renamed so their names reflected the item they controlled. 

Are the nodes without adjustable parameters just "place holders"?  How are they used?  If they are not needed, can they be deleted?

Is there a resource that covers the next step once you successfully have your Z-Wave switches/outlets/lights working?

Thanks for your time,

phil

All that you see is built into zwave code regardless of whether a manufacturer chooses to use it or not. You'll need to check the full manual of your device (usually found on their website) to see what parameters are needed to get supported nodes to populate.

The Isy wiki has instructions and details on what stuff means. Just Google Isy zwave wiki. You can also find a write up at the top of this sub forum titled zwave tips and tricks. It's easy to find since it's the very first post

Edited December 9, 2021 by lilyoyo1

[brians]

I will attempt to explain my findings...

I added a GE Enbrighten wall switch.. it added 6 nodes.

The main node allows switch control on/off

With this switch, I find that the other nodes are required for certain features... specifically there is option to use fast on, triple press etc. and it requires the nodes named with suffix eg. Scene Button 1 and Scene Button 2.

I renamed my nodes but I hope you get the idea with this program what can be done...

Jasco LED off - [ID 000A][Parent 0071]

If
        'Z-Wave extra nodes / ZW Down Hall Scene B2' is switched Fast On
 
Then
        Set 'Downstairs / Downstairs Hallway' Set Configuration Parameter 3 = 2
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Downstairs Hallway is the primary Node.

The Node ZW Down Hall Scene B2 is the bottom button of the switch (B1 is top) - and what this program does is upon a double-tap of bottom switch (eg fast on) sets a configuration parameter 3 = 2 to turn off the green LED when switch is turned on. I have another program using B1 to turn off LED with configuration parameter 3 = 0

Triple press also works but I have not had any luck with 4x press (on) or 5x press (on)

When I pull down the device selection I only see the B1 and B2 nodes and no others.

The program was just an experiment, I would use this particular case of LED off maybe for a switch in a bedroom and turn off LED at night if was too bright.

Therefore I think that like was previously mentioned... some of these are just generic placeholders because manufacturer uses same chip/software for multiple devices (eg. dimmers, multi-button switches etc.) so it is up to you to determine which ones are used or not. I had deleted these nodes and then my program did not work after so I added nodes back in.