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6 minutes ago, Teken said:

It's been a really long time since you first started this conversation and me thinking about this new hardware. I took a quick look at some of the Amazon reviews and Q&A from potential buyers.

I just can't get past the same bull sh^t that pervades this so called Home Automation industry. 

Answer:
Brilliant currently only integrates with Sonos.
 
You know Blue Tooth is an actual standard which was created to allow almost anything to be connected *Wirelessly* Yet these aszz hats won't allow BLE to connect to a simple aftermarket speaker??
 
Answer:
Currently Brilliant integrates with Ring cameras. We are always adding to our list of integrations so definitely check back at a later time.
 
Here's another real winner of a answer. We'll support a POS device like Ring. But won't follow wait for it - Standards! The RTSP / ONVIF standard was created so ANY IP based security camera could be used and viewed! Yet, stupid here will only support yet again a a sub par Cloud First device.
 
The reviews from customers also don't instill confidence in this hardware never mind the people who make this hardware. As soon as I hear and read a company is putting all their hardware on the reliance of the cloud. You know this isn't a serious company or one that will be around for very long. 
 
It just simply amazes me how utterly stupid people are getting every single year . . .
 
I just want the entire Internet to shut down for an entire year. ?
 
 
 

 

Thankfully, I only use the Brilliant Dimmer switches to control my lights, not any speakers or cameras.  And as a light switch, I think they rock. I do not use Brilliant as my home automation hub. That is left to Polisy + HA.

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1 minute ago, randyth said:

Thankfully, I only use the Brilliant Dimmer switches to control my lights, not any speakers or cameras.  And as a light switch, I think they rock. I do not use Brilliant as my home automation hub. That is left to Polisy + HA.

Understood, and know your feet are well grounded as to the application etc. I honestly just can't get past how yet another company feels compelled to follow the same idiotic footsteps like Crapple . . .

So let me ask you this if I can . . .

If you disconnect their system from the Internet can you on the LAN connect to it to operate, integrate, etc?? More specifically, if you have your very own weather station, NTP time server, can you tell their hardware to point and abstract that data???

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21 minutes ago, Teken said:

Understood, and know your feet are well grounded as to the application etc. I honestly just can't get past how yet another company feels compelled to follow the same idiotic footsteps like Crapple . . .

So let me ask you this if I can . . .

If you disconnect their system from the Internet can you on the LAN connect to it to operate, integrate, etc?? More specifically, if you have your very own weather station, NTP time server, can you tell their hardware to point and abstract that data???

Bluetooth and HomeKit are local technologies that do not require the cloud/Internet. So, yes, HA can turn on and off the lights connected to my Brilliant Dimmer switches without it.  I have disconnected from the Internet and verified this.

As with the Insteon switches I'm replacing, I don't plan to use Brilliant switches for anything other than lighting so I can't speak to LAN support for weather stations and time servers.  I use Polisy and/or HA handle these functions.

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From the Brilliant FAQ:

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If my Wi-Fi/Internet goes down, will Brilliant still work?
Yes, Brilliant will work without Wi-Fi or an Internet connection. You will need Wi-Fi to use the video intercom, or to connect to other smart home devices in the house. An Internet connection is required to use Alexa, and there are also a few smart home products that also require an Internet connection (you know who you are). But if Wi-Fi isn't present, Brilliants will use Bluetooth to connect with each other.

NOTE: This does not mean they have a public API (they do not) so their Controller (which I largely ignore) is not something you could readily hack. Interestingly, however, you can SSH into their Controllers. Hmm...

Again, I am only using Brilliant for their Dimmer switches. The purchase of the Controller/Mothership/hub was a necessary evil. I do not every plan to make it the brains of my system. I have Polisy for that.

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