Disable a device versus remove

[intellihome]

I need to disable my V2 thermostat adapter due to the constant traffic generated by the Humidity sensor problem.

 

I disabled all my programs that used the T-stat

 

I was going to Remove the device from My Lighting but I see the Disable option. Can I "Disable" the device and then physically remove the V2 adapter from the thermostat? Or should I "Remove" the device from My Lighting and then physically remove the adapter?

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi intellihome,

 

Disabling the device does not prevent it from sending updates to its slave (in this case the PLM). If the thermostat adapter is causing so much issues, you will have to completely remove it from ISY.

 

I have two of these thermostats and although they keep sending updates, I have not noticed a lot of communication issues. What type of communication issues are you experiencing?

 

I seriously doubt that SH is going to have a new firmware any time soon.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

I need to disable my V2 thermostat adapter due to the constant traffic generated by the Humidity sensor problem.

 

I disabled all my programs that used the T-stat

 

I was going to Remove the device from My Lighting but I see the Disable option. Can I "Disable" the device and then physically remove the V2 adapter from the thermostat? Or should I "Remove" the device from My Lighting and then physically remove the adapter?

[intellihome]

Hi Michel,

Since the V2 I have noticed decreased reliability especially with my X10 programs and KPL button status from garage door I/O Linc (sensor). I also noticed comm fails while creating scenes with KPL's. I had have to try three or four times to create the scene.

 

I have not really studied the behavoir as well as I should have and should not assume however while looking at my logs, the humidity updates are mostly <1minute intervals and never more then a few minutes. I have an ELK ESM1 signal meter that sees Insteon signals. The meter verifies the log.

 

If an x10 signal is sent and the V2 sends an update as often as it does, it's bound to crash signals. insteon traffic is why we need a 1 second delay before X10 signals are sent in our programs? I think it would be silly to keep the adapter and have traffic every minute of every day, week, and year.

 

The device is now removed and the V2 is also removed. I'll see if the reliability comes back up and post back.

 

I don't expect to see a firmware change from SH anytime soon either.

The problem is really with Venstar IMO. The Venstar reports a humidity change (albeit a bogust change). The V2 does what it supposed to do... reports it.

 

I think my only options are...

1. figure a way to make the Venstar "hold" it's bogust humidity signal.

2. Buy the more expensive T1900

3. See if SH can send me back a V1 adapter

4. Send the T1700 and adapter back to SH and forget about Insteon climate control.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi intellihome,

 

Thanks so very much!

 

I would very much appreciate it if you could keep us posted with your experimentation. It's very important for all of us to figure out the impact of these thermostats in real environments.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[intellihome]

Excellent News.

 

A representitive from Venstar has suggested a fix which I implemented this evening and tested. The Humidity updates on the T1700 are gone. The display on the ISY now shows 0% all the time. They said they will make a change on future T1700's.

 

The Fix:

 

1. Remove the T-stat from the baseplate.

2. Looking at the PCB with the V2 adapter port faceing down, you will see where a humidity sensor could be installed on the bottom right side of the PCB (it's actually written "Humidity sensor"). Just above this area you will see two rectangular solder bumps. The component label is C32.

3. Get a soldering iron and short these two pads together with a solder bead.

 

BTW When I removed the V2 my stability returned. All x10 fired perfectly and my keypad buttons leds are always in synch.

 

The V2 is now installed and the ISY is controlling nicely.

[Michel Kohanim]

intellihome,

 

Thanks so very much for this excellent news and workaround.

 

With kind regards,

Michel