@oskrypuch, Thank you very much! Some more updates: 1. There might be hope for those who have Hub IIs ... there's a high likelihood that they can be converted to a PLM 2. It's become evident that manufacturing 2413S/U is probably not going to happen since some of the parts are ETL'd, and 3 others are not available for another 18 months 3. Our focus is now on PLM Pro which was designed by our very good friend at SH but was sacked in favor of the Nokia hub So, I think we'll