Palmer marketing Posted May 19, 2022 Posted May 19, 2022 Ok - so i'm not a Isy pro, but i have had my 994i for a couple of years and am fairly fluent with the program and windows based systems. I noticed loads of error messages appearing in the isy event viewer which is a tell tale sd card starting to croak. Decided to replace it, and went through that process without any issues. All good, right? uggg. I had already updated Java to it's newest version, and cleared the cache , as wiki says to do. The problem is spending two hours just trying to get a complete functioning decktop icon that will actually work. I have tried to replace my blue icon that was in the taskbar with the new isy admin console . If i hit that button, all i can get is a "unable to launch application" . So , then i try to use the isy.jnlp file that is on my decktop and it will sometimes start, sometimes not. Boy, sounds like a simple problem, but this is where frustration takes over the benefits of a good system. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? thanks for any help.
hart2hart Posted May 19, 2022 Posted May 19, 2022 Ok - so i'm not a Isy pro, but i have had my 994i for a couple of years and am fairly fluent with the program and windows based systems. I noticed loads of error messages appearing in the isy event viewer which is a tell tale sd card starting to croak. Decided to replace it, and went through that process without any issues. All good, right? uggg. I had already updated Java to it's newest version, and cleared the cache , as wiki says to do. The problem is spending two hours just trying to get a complete functioning decktop icon that will actually work. I have tried to replace my blue icon that was in the taskbar with the new isy admin console . If i hit that button, all i can get is a "unable to launch application" . So , then i try to use the isy.jnlp file that is on my decktop and it will sometimes start, sometimes not. Boy, sounds like a simple problem, but this is where frustration takes over the benefits of a good system. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? thanks for any help. Clearing Java cache should have removed all remnants of old so try again and then redownload ISY console or launcher.
Solution MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Solution Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Palmer marketing said: So , then i try to use the isy.jnlp file that is on my decktop and it will sometimes start, sometimes not. What file is this? The Launcher is installed with start.jnlp, the older method uses a file named admin.jnlp I'm not sure how you're doing it if your file is named isy.jnlp.
Palmer marketing Posted May 19, 2022 Author Posted May 19, 2022 Yeah, i'm somewhat familiar with that. i have made some progress to try and get my system back to it's original state. Where i am: i finally removed java and reinstalled a new version , and this is on a windows 10 platform. Some good news. i now have a ISY Launcher (blue UD) on my desktop. I drug that in to my taskbar, which is a good place for things you open often. If i open the ISY launcher, it opens another box that is the ISY Finder (has name, UUID, etc across the top line). The only way i can launch is to tap either the uuid, or the url and then ISY opens. This is not my biggest problem in life, but , somewhat archaic to "tripple click" an application to get it running. What i'm trying to do is replace what was here. The replacement 32g sd card fixed all of the error issues and i had zero problems getting everything running again, with the exception of this stupid shortcut that has lived quietly on my task bar for 2 years. That's what i'm trying to fix.
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Posted May 19, 2022 The point of the ISY launcher (start.jnlp) is to get around browser warnings and ensure the user is always running the correct verison of the admin console. I'd venture to guess that previously, you had admin.jnlp stored on your taskbar. If you know the IP address of your ISY you can save that file http://IP.ADDR.OF.ISY/admin.jnlp. The advantage of using Launcher is that going forward you shouldn't need to touch Launcher when upgrading the ISY, it should get the correct version of the admin console automatically. Using admin.jnlp you do have to mess with clearing the java cache etc. when firmware is upgraded.
Palmer marketing Posted May 19, 2022 Author Posted May 19, 2022 MrBill - thanks for your comments. I think i'm pretty much on track to do exactly what you have in the comments above. Right now, i'm away from my home office/network, so i'll try some other options tonight. I did try the exact route that you have above, and you are correct, i did have the admin.jnlp saved on the taskbar. Once the re-load process was finished., i tired exactly what you have above. my ip, /admin.jnlp. However, after about an hour of tugging at my system, the only way i can get isy to open is in the comments above. One other weird thing happened before i tossed the towel in for the night. When i tried to use the http://IP.ADDR.OF.ISY/admin.jnlp. later on. it opened some kind of universal devices page that said something about "keep this page open" . i just x'd it out but probably should have taken a screen shot of that. So that i am moving this in the right direction, i'll assume that i'm trying to get the isy launcher back on the taskbar, correct? That is what i have there now, but once again, it will only open isy finder and nothing else. i can not figure out a way to make the launch bypass the steps of opening the finder then clicking on the actual ip address or the ud number. thanks again for reading all this - Isy is a great device. it's set up in a huge house with multiple repeaters/programs/insteon and z-wave, and the only real trouble i've had is with this goofy desktop settings.
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Posted May 19, 2022 Not sure what browser you're using but you're running into browser security issues... one of the reasons that The ISY Launcher was created. I use firefox but I can't remember if I changed a security setting at some point to make it easier to download .jnlp files... you want to "save the file" not open it, to achieve being able to put it on the desktop or taskbar.
hart2hart Posted May 19, 2022 Posted May 19, 2022 Not sure what browser you're using but you're running into browser security issues... one of the reasons that The ISY Launcher was created. I use firefox but I can't remember if I changed a security setting at some point to make it easier to download .jnlp files... you want to "save the file" not open it, to achieve being able to put it on the desktop or taskbar.I used to go to Java console and set security to allow it to excute Java code in the browser to get the console to down load and execute for the first time. Then I’d turn the setting back off.
Palmer marketing Posted May 19, 2022 Author Posted May 19, 2022 ahhhhh,,,,,, you may both be on to something here. With my old fuzzed up memory, i think i tried two or three times last night to do just that - save the jnlp file, but my browser would not allow that. Thought that was strange, so maybe next steps will be to look in to the java security settings and see if i can do what hart2hart did as well.
Palmer marketing Posted May 24, 2022 Author Posted May 24, 2022 Well, the beauty of these forums is that the comments usually lead to re-thinking a problem. Hart-2-Hart and Mr. Bill , i appreciate your comments. Got to thinking about google chrome, and did some research. Turns out that chrome did eliminates some extensions, including java. I downloaded what i will mistakenly call a patch that allows extensions to run in chrome. I'm not a browser expert, so i just have a basic grasp of how java and search engines work or don't work in common. The download came from a site listed as "IE Tab" and allowed me to add java extensions. Hmmmm, could this be the end of 4 hours of work? Yup, it was. Allowed me to drop a shortcut in the task bar that now, with one click, opens the admin console. So, passing along . Thanks guys for the helpful input.
MrBill Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 I don't use chrome (it's installed and occasionally used for testing), but I'm not sure what job the browser has here. Neither start.jnlp nor admin.jnlp open anything in the browser. Nice you got it working the way you want, I hope the site listed as IE Tab is a legit site offering reasonably safe extensions. 1
Palmer marketing Posted May 24, 2022 Author Posted May 24, 2022 Me too. Limited research on it, but virius protection isn't screaming and i see nothing in the tank about it. I thought the same thing you did above - what is up with the extensions given start/admin open in a browser. Makes me do another hmm,, . So, it's working, shouldn't be this big of a deal, and hopefully at some point the developers will figure out an easier way to get shortcuts on the desktop and taskbar. Thanks again for all info. and responsive posts.
hart2hart Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 I’ve Never updated browser. It was a Java setting. 1
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