FBoucher Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, MrBill said: I also use Home Assistant @MrBill You mentionned that you also use Home Assistant. I'm interested by ISY - HA integration. Is HA integrated with ISY or just running in parallel? I haven't seen a wiki on this. Is there one? If not, can you provide some pointers? Also, before receiving my brand new Polisy, I was experimenting with Homebridge. Is it possible to link Polisy with Homebridge? Since this subject is not related to the initial post, we could open a new post if you or the moderator prefer. Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I happened to be chatting with the moderator when I read this, so I had him split it off. Home Assistant has a Universal Devices Integrations that imports all devices and scenes as Home Assistant entities, Variables can also be imported on a pick and choose basis. The Documentation for the integration is here. Happy to answer any other questions you have. Link to comment
FBoucher Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Wow, thank you. Just out of curiosity, how do you use HA? Just as a user interface or also for automation? The title says HA questions, but I found some ISY integration for Homebridge. Are they worth to be considered? Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I failed to comment on the home bridge portion of your post.... To that I can only say I don't know, I don't use it. I can tell you that there is a homebridge integration on HA that allows you to use HA as a middleman to the Apple Home app. I set it up once and then deleted it because I didn't want one more thing to maintain. Meaning that you don't need to run Homebridge as a separate server. When I started with Home Assistant I was using it strictly as a front end to the ISY, but over the last 18 months it's become a co-controller. Several things have moved from node servers to HA for various reasons, one was Rachio because the cloud version of the Node server shut down with the PG 2 or 3 node server I needed an open port... which i won't open ports on the router anymore. Another moved over because the PG node server was always broken, that node server seems to be doing better now on the ISY side but after moving I never moved back. Then I added some Zigbee shades, zigbee (beyond hue lighting) don't exist in the ISY world. I've become pretty good with making the two controllers share stuff when they need to, and it's not built in. As far as Home Assistant as a front end to the ISY, it's the first phone remote app that my wife has liked and actually uses. I created dashboards that make sense for our house, I was never quite able to do that with Mobilinc, Agave, or eKeypad. Link to comment
FBoucher Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Thank you for sharing. I'll give it a try since I already have a Home Assistant server that I used to experiment HA-Insteon integration before receiving my Polisy. Not wanting to restart yet another passionate exchange, i found that in home automation programming, the most important "variable" is your "other half"?. Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, FBoucher said: Thank you for sharing. I'll give it a try since I already have a Home Assistant server that I used to experiment HA-Insteon integration before receiving my Polisy. Not wanting to restart yet another passionate exchange, i found that in home automation programming, the most important "variable" is your "other half"?. Home assistant current versions should find your Polisy and ask you to configure the integration. (I think they adjusted that as of the May release to auto-find Polisy). Link to comment
kzboray Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 My Home Assistant didn't find my Polisy automatically, but I was able to add it manually using the following settings. IP Addr: http://10.0.0.xxx:8080 (Don't forget to add the port number) user name: Your IoP login name password: Your IoP password TLS 1.2 Link to comment
slimypizza Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Similar to a previous statement, the HA remote app was the first one my wife liked (me too really). LG appliance integrations and interfacing with our Ambient weather station were big pluses in our house. The dashboards you can create make sense and are configurable. The added graphics capabilities are good too (eg showing garage door open or close). It’s free. My only investment was a Pi4. I could have run it off my Synology docker but as I recall, that version seemed to lose some functionality. Link to comment
Athlon Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I happen to be running Homebridge on an RPi to control some Velux skylights. I do so because the Velux app sucks in that it has very little flexibility. I use the programming logic in ISY to talk to Homebridge and therefore my Velux hub for much more control than the Velux app allows. I've looked at HA since I set up Homebridge and may switch over to it. @FBoucher, if you are already somewhat familiar with HA I would stay with it. It seems to have a much friendlier interface than Homebridge. Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, kzboray said: My Home Assistant didn't find my Polisy automatically, but I was able to add it manually using the following settings. IP Addr: http://10.0.0.xxx:8080 (Don't forget to add the port number) user name: Your IoP login name password: Your IoP password TLS 1.2 It should beginning with the 2022.5.0 release Quote Add discovery support for polisy to isy994 (@bdraco - #70940) (isy994 docs) Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, slimypizza said: It’s free. +1 and the best part! Link to comment
Rob Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I've been running HA on an Intel nuc in conjunction with the ISY for the last year or so and it's by far the best combination I've used. I use ISY mostly for lighting and HA for everything else, including Alexa. I have a few Fire HD10 tablets mounted on walls and you can create some truly awesome gui's depending on your coding skills. The great thing about the ISY is it's seen me through Roomie, then HomeSeer, and now HomeAssistant with no disruption to my lighting thanks to Insteon scenes and ISY's rock-solid stability. I wouldn't dream of migrating my lighting away from ISY to anything else. Link to comment
feistyacorn Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Those GUIs look awesome! I like that idea of continuing to use my ISY in conjunction with HA. The ISY controlling Insteon lighting has been great for my home. I really hope UD is able to acquire and manufacture Insteon tech so I don't have to convert my lighting setup. Anyways... I recently installed the docker version of HA on my Unraid server and got it connected to my ISY. The part I'm stuck at is controlling an ISY scene with a HA automations. The individual devices show up, but the scenes don't. Any ideas for me to try? Link to comment
FBoucher Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 @Rob Those GUI are really amazing. I'm new to both ISY and HA, but I learn fast with good wikis and a little help from my friends. I found this Home Assistant Frontend guide, but is there an example walkthrough to create GUIs like yours? Link to comment
MrBill Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, feistyacorn said: The individual devices show up, but the scenes don't. Scenes should show up as a Switch and the default icon on a scene is . On/Off devices also show up as Switch but have a default icon of . Dimmable devices show up as Light, with a default Icon of . Check you Switch group again. Link to comment
Rob Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, FBoucher said: @Rob Those GUI are really amazing. I'm new to both ISY and HA, but I learn fast with good wikis and a little help from my friends. I found this Home Assistant Frontend guide, but is there an example walkthrough to create GUIs like yours? Thanks! I'm a former web designer so I started the interface basically from scratch. I will recommend reading up on CSS grid layout and use https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-layout-card. A CSS Grid Generator like https://grid.layoutit.com/ will help significantly when designing your own screens. Also recommend Custom Button Card https://github.com/custom-cards/button-card and Custom Card Mod https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-card-mod. Start simple, use the HA gui to create some cards and then view the code to see under the hood. Then get more ambitious and take it from there. Basically depends on your skill level and how much time you wish to spend on it. I'll be happy to answer questions if I'm able. Link to comment
FBoucher Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 Thanks @Rob. I'll give it a try. Although, summer is almost here. It may take a little while or many rainy days before I have something to report on. Link to comment
feistyacorn Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, MrBill said: Scenes should show up as a Switch and the default icon on a scene is . On/Off devices also show up as Switch but have a default icon of . Dimmable devices show up as Light, with a default Icon of . Check you Switch group again. Ah! All the scenes are now available after I changed the action to the switch call service. Thanks! Link to comment
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