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Look at the integration matrix for the telnet protocol in this https://assets.lutron.com/a/documents/040249.pdf Lutron document. Notice no reference to RA3 or Castesa  in there?  that's because they don't support the telnet protocol. 

Lutron's latest integration protocol, LEAP is what their new processors use and they are less open about providing the details.  https://support.lutron.com/us/en/product/radiora3/article/networking/Lutron-s-LEAP-API-Integration-Protocol

The protocol has been reverse-engineered, and that's what is being used in the Caseta node server.  At some point it will be updated to support RA3 as well.

 

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that looks like radio ra3 stuff - i was hoping for homeworks 

from their doc for homeworks

HomeWorks QS (continued)

Integration Access Points (continued)

Connection Information Ethernet Configuring the HomeWorks QS processor to communicate over a network takes not only knowledge of the HomeWorks QS system, but of networking as well. Installers with limited networking knowledge are advised to contact a networking professional before attempting to connect a HomeWorks QS processor through a network. The installer will make any necessary configuration changes to the HomeWorks QS processor using the HomeWorks QS Design Software Application and the network professional can make any necessary changes to the networking equipment.

Dual Ethernet Port

• IEEE® 802.3 Auto-Sensing 10BaseT/100BaseTX

• Supports MDI/MDIX auto-crossover (no crossover cable needed).

• Female 8P8C “Computer RJ-45” socket

• Green “Connect” LED, Amber “Activity” LED

• Use Cat 5 cabling or better

• 2 Port 10/100 Ethernet Switch

TCP/IP Settings

• IP Address: Address at which the processor can be reached for integration. In most instances when integrating to a processor, DHCP should be disabled and a static IP address should be assigned to prevent the processor from changing IP addresses.

• Subnet Mask: In conjunction with the IP address, it defines the subnet on which the processor communicates. Processors will be able to integrate only with devices on the same subnet.

• Gateway: Used in instances where the processor needs to communicate to the internet. Should be set to the IP address of the device on the network connected directly to the internet—typically, the home router. Protocols Used for Integration

• Telnet

Telnet Server

• Used by third party equipment (e.g., touch screen)

• Used by Lutron mobile devices (e.g., iPad and iPhone)

• Limited to transferring ASCII characters

• Telnet Port number is 23

• Logins: Defined in the HomeWorks QS software application

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6 hours ago, RPerrault said:

prove that

without using the collective knowledge of the internet and without calling me a drunk

I guess this is what happens when you read to argue vs reading for comprehension. I stated newer system not older.

For you, I deduct the collective knowledge of the internet from those who've tried it isn't enough (including straight from the horse's mouth) to have prove it (probably is but then you wouldn't have a reason to argue)? If you have their older systems (Ra2/QS) then you're fine with tellnet. However, if you have their next gen stuff (Ra3/QSX) then tellnet is a no-go. 

You claim to have people willing to sell (or have sold) homeworks to you so why don't you prove me wrong? If you haven't gotten it yet, you could also ask the dealers you claim to know if their newest systems work with it.  

I'm not a homeworks dealer so I can't prove it through my experience. I have installed Ra3 and can say THAT doesn't work via tellnet. 

 

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Where is the info info on "how to"?

I'll pick on the Ryse SmartShade - the first one mentioned and where I would likely start. I don't see any links in article and a search of the forum doesn't yield any results. The Ryse website only mentions integration with Alexa, Google and Homekit and I don't have or want to get any of those.

I sent message to Ryse support - pointing to UDI eisy web page - and they replied:

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Hi there,
 
Thank you for your interest in RYSE SmartShades! Unfortunately, our devices are not compatible with this model of smart hub. However, when using our SmartBridge, they can pair with Google Home, Alexa, or Apple HomeKit! 

Is there a way other than through the cloud services above? 

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1 minute ago, johnnyt said:

Where is the info info on "how to"?

I'll pick on the Ryse SmartShade - the first one mentioned and where I would likely start. I don't see any links in article and a search of the forum doesn't yield any results. The Ryse website only mentions integration with Alexa, Google and Homekit and I don't have or want to get any of those.

I sent message to Ryse support - pointing to UDI eisy web page - and they replied:

Is there a way other than through the cloud services above? 

that is from a blog post on ud - 

https://www.universal-devices.com/smart-shades/

ryse is not listed

 

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um - you are the one that replies with 'any idiot can use google' to my posts 

because you cannot back up what you say - you turn to personal attacks and ignore the substance

he was talking about ra3 - i am talking about homeworks - which does support telnet - and lutron supplies the instructions and commands and formats

if you read the documentation ew1 posted you would know that

 

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24 minutes ago, johnnyt said:

Where is the info info on "how to"?

I'll pick on the Ryse SmartShade - the first one mentioned and where I would likely start. I don't see any links in article and a search of the forum doesn't yield any results. The Ryse website only mentions integration with Alexa, Google and Homekit and I don't have or want to get any of those.

I sent message to Ryse support - pointing to UDI eisy web page - and they replied:

Is there a way other than through the cloud services above? 

The article wasn't intended to be a "how to".  It was intended to show that there are options available that are supported by UDI via node servers.

The RYSE node server is new (released just before the blog post was published).  

RYSE worked with me and provided API documentation and a sample unit so that I could create the node server.  RYSE marketing may not be fully aware of their work to get is supported on Polisy/eisy.

The node server connects locally to the RYSE bridge to control the shades.  You do need to use their app and bridge to initially configure the shades, but once configured, the node server control over the shades is local only.

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1 hour ago, xlurkr said:

I have RA2 and QS Standalone, and they both support telnet.  Any chance you will add support?  Right now, I'm using ST's PG 2.0 NS for Ra2, and Hubitat for QS Standalone, in conjunction with ST's PG 2.0 Hubitat NS.

-Tom

I don't have access to any Lutron equipment that uses telnet and thus, don't have any plans to create a node server for it. 

11 minutes ago, RPerrault said:

because you cannot back up what you say - you turn to personal attacks and ignore the substance

he was talking about ra3 - i am talking about homeworks - which does support telnet - and lutron supplies the instructions and commands and formats

I don't know that anyone was contesting the fact that HomeWorks supports telnet.  HomeWorks is "old" in terms of Lutron product lines.  @lilyoyo1 stated that "new" Lutron product lines no longer support telnet.

Lutron doesn't seem to make it simple to determine what does and doesn't support telnet.  But they have stated that it won't be supported in newer product lines going forward. 

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