Zooz ZSE44

[Merlin]

Hey folks,

I recently moved from ISY994 to EISY and noticed that I'm having issues properly adding Zooz Z-Wave devices to my network. I have a ZSE29 Outdoor Motion & Light Sensor which I picked up a few months ago. After some initial issues migrating it to the EISY, I managed to get it working properly after exclusing and reincluding. In general, it has been working pretty well overall.

However, I just picked up a pair of ZSE44 (firmware 1.30) Temperature/Humidity sensors. I ended up having to include and exclude the first one a few times before I got it to add properly. I initially used S2 authentication, but it didn't add any nodes, even after a resync update or replace with interview a few times. Using S2 unauthenticated solved that problem, allowing me to add both without issue. They both finished their interviews completely, according to the XRay DH Command Classes report. However, both devices still show the green "1011" symbol. All attempts to write changes never complete, despite telling the ZSE44 to wake up (using the 4 button clicks) repeatedly, before during and after the write command. I also tried using the Wake Up node to set wake up interval to 15 seconds, and setting the keep awake on; neither of which appeared to work. Does anyone have any other idea for how to get these to update properly?

Before anyone asks, I added both ZSE44 devices within 5 feet of the EISY, and the ZMatter/ZWave USB dongle has both antennas attached. I am running IoX 5.7.0 if that matters.

On the bright side, both devices appear to be properly sending temperature and humidity updates. Which is good, but it would be nice if I could get them to wake up long enough to accept writes so the 1011 goes away. I saw others on the forum have had a similar issue, so it may just be an issue with the ZSE44 devices themselves.

Additionally, I noticed that both devices added 12 nodes:

• Heat Alarm - node 1
• Moisture Detected - node 359
• Multilevel Sensor (Temperature) - node 118
• Overheat Alarm - node 166
• Underheat Alarm - node 168
• Weather Sensor (Humidity) - node 373
• Weather Alarm - node 317
• Wake Up - node 199
• 4 x SC Basic Assoc 2-5 - nodes 252M002-005

I really only care about nodes 1, 118, 373, and 199; IMO, the rest of the nodes don't seem like legitimate nodes for this device, or at least, they are practically useless for a temperature/humidity sensor. Plus, I don't know how to configure the alarms. The configuration info in the manual doesn't even mention them.

Aside from just throwing those nodes into a folder for useless nodes, is there any way to adjust the device database to tell it which nodes we want to use/create when including devices and which to ignore?

I have a few Aeotec Multisensor 7's coming tomorrow. That will be my first experience with Aeotec, and I'm curious to see how they compare to the Zooz. If they work better, I may end up sending the Zooz back and getting the Aeotec Temp+Humidity sensors instead.

Thanks!

Edited November 12, 2023 by Merlin

[IndyMike]

Hi @Merlin,

Unfortunately, I can't help with inclusion issues as I don't have the Eisy.  I do have a number of the ZSE44's and am happy with them in general.  They do have a lot of "nodes" as you refer to them. 

On my ISY994, I believe I was able to "group" nodes by right clicking on the main node (1) and selecting "group devices".  This would move the secondary nodes under the main node in the device tree (make them less obvious). 

As I indicated, I have a number of the ZSE44's.  I am happy with them except for my "outdoor" devices that consume batteries.  The issue here is that I have devices outside the house that go through wide temperature swings this time of year (40" degrees).  This drains a lot of battery.  Devices in the house run ~1 year on a CR2450.  Outside, less than 1/3 during spring/fall. 

I am posting because I am interested in the Aeotec Mutisensor 7's that you have coming.  Then have an advertised life of 3+ years.  The are similar to my Zooz ZSE40's that I have been happy with (motion, temp, humidity), but have a much better advertised battery life. 

Please do report back how you like the Aeotec devices.  If you have further questions on the Zooz ZSE44's, I'll help where I can.

IM

[Merlin]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:31 AM, IndyMike said:

I am posting because I am interested in the Aeotec Mutisensor 7's that you have coming.  Then have an advertised life of 3+ years.  The are similar to my Zooz ZSE40's that I have been happy with (motion, temp, humidity), but have a much better advertised battery life. 

Please do report back how you like the Aeotec devices.  If you have further questions on the Zooz ZSE44's, I'll help where I can.

 

Hi IM,

I picked up 3 of the Aeotec Multisensor 7's. So far they have been working great. They included on the eISY properly the first time and there have been no problem with them responding to commands. They also have a ton of nodes, most of which I have no use for, but I think that is just the way the [e]ISY operates without a database for every piece of kit out there.

They include two CR123A batteries if you want to put them in a remote location, but they can also be USB-powered, which is how I am powering the units I have. They also operate as a Z-Wave repeater in that configuration.

As for the ZSE44's, I think I may end up returning them. Between the communication issues and the lack of a mount, they aren't really going to work for what I need.

[IndyMike]

@Merlin - Thanks for the response.  Another device to investigate - oh well.

I am curious how you are powering the devices (and hiding wires) in your installation.  Would you mind describing or providing a photo of your wired device?

Thanks,

IM 

[Merlin]

3 hours ago, IndyMike said:

@Merlin - Thanks for the response.  Another device to investigate - oh well.

I am curious how you are powering the devices (and hiding wires) in your installation.  Would you mind describing or providing a photo of your wired device?

 

The Aeotec sensors have a micro USB port under the battery cover, and a cutout in the cover to support the cable. So I am just powering them via a USB cable that runs back to a USB-A power adapter on the wall. For now I am not bothering with trying to hide the wires as I am mainly using them for occupancy/heat/humidity sensors in my basement, attic, and utility areas, but eventually I may end up doing so.