drprm1 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 In AC under a motion sensor it has buttons for “motion, no motion, and query” They don’t seem to do anything. Also have options for “motion and no motion” under programming but when used in a program they do nothing… I would like to be able to send an only on command (motion) from sensor like I could with Insteon ms. Thanks
Panda88 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Let me think about it - It should be possible to have it send only DON (or DFO for that matter)
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 I thought that in the app if I disable no motion state that it would just send motion (on) commands but it doesn’t.
Panda88 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 I think it may be filtered at a higher level I think you can test on Motion under control - it should only trigger when turned on
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 (edited) I tried programming control on but wouldn’t work correctly. Trying to replace all my Insteon ms with these but can’t just replace in programs.even with changing app settings Edited August 27 by drprm1
Panda88 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Can you specify exactly what you need and I can talk a look - I have not looked at the motion sensors for a while so I may be able to improve on them
Panda88 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 I think something is wrong with your version Mine looks like this - you can select if only DON (motion) DOF (no-motion), both and none can be selected My understanding is that this is want triggers the AC integration outside programs - I believe this is what you are looking for. The motion and NoMotion buttons are to send a DON/DOF from the device (even if there is no motion) Does yours look different?
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 Mine all look like this EISY and AC 5.8.4 PG3X 3.2.27 yolink 1.1.2
Panda88 Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Can you send me a log file with debug enabled and trigger the motion sensor a few times You can also try to erase the motion sensor and restart the node
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 (edited) I deleted ms from AC. Shut down AC retasrted ns. Restarted AC and the MS showed up in same config as my photo. This was a new MS added yesterday. Added 3 new yesterday and none look like your example with the on off commands Edited August 27 by drprm1
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 Got a brand new MS installed and ns in AC still doesn’t look like yours….?
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 If it matters it shows in UD mobile a “select command action” prompt. Doesn’t have this in my AC.
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 Pardon my ignorance. I thought all devices were nodes. So what exactly am I erasing from the node ie from the motion sensor? Sorry sometimes the nomenclature here escapes me.
Solution Panda88 Posted August 27 Solution Posted August 27 Erasing the node in the node server (PG3) does are bigger reset that from the AC - You need to find it in the list there I doubt it helps when a new node does not work - but may be worth a try
drprm1 Posted August 27 Author Posted August 27 Tried that but you’re right, didn’t do anything. Thanks for the effort.
drprm1 Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 Deleted from nodeserver and reinstalled. Now it looks correct. Hate to be PIA but what would you expect the buttons at the bottom of screen marked “Motion and no motion” to do. They don’t seem to do anything. In programming “set” to motion or no motion does nothing either.
Panda88 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 They are supposed to send trigger (DON / DOF) like the motion sensor would do - allowing you to trigger a scene/program - you can look in PG3 log to see if a cmd('DON" .. ) is sent I thought it works but I could be wrong It may not be of much use - I am not personally using them
drprm1 Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 Doesn’t show up as doing anything. No triggers are sent when using these in programs either.
Panda88 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) OK - I can take a look - you are correct They no-longer work - do you want me to remove them? Probably no real use Edited August 28 by Panda88
drprm1 Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 Much appreciated. Would love them to work like and be programmed like Insteon MS. I’ve had a recent ALLON event and would like to take the Insteon MS out of loop and try and use YL.
Panda88 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 What function is it you need? - I think you can set the motion sensor to only send on Motion, and when it exists motion (that is the new field) The 2 buttons are to force a motion event - you can do the same in a program by running the then event
drprm1 Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 (edited) The two buttons don’t force a motion event nor does running the then event in a program containing a motion or no motion command. At least I can’t get it to. I can get it to only send on or only off commands but the buttons I would think would override the setting. I’ll jack with it more. Edited August 28 by drprm1
Panda88 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 The buttons are not working now I can enable them again - I removed them, but forgot to remove them in the profile so they show up but with no function I think you need to test the sensor working From what I can see (besides timing) it should offer then same as the insteon (I have) It can trigger only on alerts or trigger on both alert and when no alert happens - My node further offers to only trigger on no_alert Note, it send DON for alert and DOF when no_alert happens 1
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