Help with RatGDO as scene controller / responder?

[Bug994]

RatGDO and the plugin have been working well for me.  I'm now trying to take the next step of setting it up to be part of a scene.   I had this set up a long ago with the Insteon garage door opener kit (which sometimes worked, sometimes didn't) and I can't remember how I did it.

Essentially I just want to do this:  I have an Insteon KeypadLinc Dimmer 5 Buttons (2334) and I want to have Button A send the open/close command to the RatGDO.  This part should be easy:  add both the RatGDO plugin and the Button to the scene, let the Button be a Controller and the RatGDO be the Responder.

However, I also want the button to be a Responder to the RatGDO based on the status of whether the garage door is open or closed:  Backlight of the button should be on when the garage door is open, off when the garage door is closed.

I can't for the life of me remember how I set this up before - and whether the RatGDO and plugin can also work this way.  Trying to avoid doing it with programs if possible.

Apologies if this is more of a basic IOX question, but thought I'd ask here first.

Thanks.

Edited December 1 by Bug994

[maxnorth]

I believe the basic approach for controlling KPL LEDs is to create another scene with only the LED in it.  Then create a program that will turn that scene on or off.

When the garage door is open, run the program to turn the LED on. When closed, off.

(fwiw, I have mine set to turn the light on when the door is closed.  It's sort of a failsafe so I know it is working properly.)

[Guy Lavoie]

13 hours ago, Bug994 said:

Trying to avoid doing it with programs if possible.

I'm afraid I'll disappoint you...

You'll need a program to do this, to trigger a scene that updates the keypadlinc button. It's great that we can do this though, because it allows the button (especially when configured in toggle mode) to always be in the correct state for the next, alternate action. Seeing the status light is also a nice plus, for situations like yours where direct observation of the garage door isn't easy.

 

[oberkc]

The way to do this with Insteon does not require a program.  I cannot say about whether RatGDO would work the same.  (Does RatGDO plug in have relay and sensor nodes?). With Insteon, create two scenes.  One with the keypad button as controller and relay as responder.  The second scene would have the sensor as controller and same keypad button as responder (set up so that the sensor is ON when the door is open).  Configure the keypad button as non-toggle (on) mode.  Configure the IOLinc to accept ON commands to trigger a momentary closure of the contact.  

Hopefully, RatGDO will work the same.

 

[Bug994]

Thanks for the quick help everyone.  It definitely knocks a couple things loose in the noggin.

I do now remember how the two scenes is the key to get the keypad button to turn on and off.  I think @oberkc has it correct on how the IOLinc didn't need a program to do that second scene.  Even if a simple program for RatGDO is necessary, it shouldn't be too difficult.  I'll play around with it this afternoon and update back here.

Edited December 1 by Bug994