rmlinnovator Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I just added a MorningLinc Insteon Controller. When linking to the ISY I now have two device one with -On and one with -Off. They both do the same thing. I am confused why I see the 2 devices? Link to comment
oberkc Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I notice the same thing. Two devices. Both able to lock and unlock the door. I was just too lazy or uniterested to ask the question. That being the case, I look forward to any insight anyone cares to offer. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Hi Guys, If you put MorningLinc in a scene as responder, upon scene activation, one locks and the other one unlocks. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
oberkc Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 If you put MorningLinc in a scene as responder, upon scene activation, one locks and the other one unlocks. That was my initial impression. However, upon installation, I found that I could put either of the two devices in a scene and lock or unlock by sending either an on or off command to the single device. In my mind, this created a bit of redundancy. Will respond again when confirmed. Link to comment
oberkc Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I tried to check out my morninlinc, and find it inoperable. The LED is dimly flashing. No communication appears possible. Factory reset does not restore anything. I guess it will be a few days before I can confirm my original belief: on and off devices appeared to serve no separate function. Both would lock or unlock my morning industries door lock. Link to comment
LeeG Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 The individual On/Off nodes perform the same function when Insteon Direct commands are issued to either node. When the On node is a Responder in a Scene a Scene On will Lock the mechanism. When the Off node is a Responder in a Scene a Scene Off will Unlock the mechanism. Once a Factory Reset is done the MorningLinc will have to be Deleted and added using Start Linking with the 3rd link record option to reestablish ISY access to the MorningLinc device. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Greetings, I'm trying to control a Morninglinc with a Remotelink and not having success. I have linked the ML to the ISY and created a scene with the RL as the controller. I hit the button on the RL and light on the ISY blinks but the lock does not open. The light on the ML does not blink. Any thoughts? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Hi Vince, Did you follow the instructions below to link your MorningLinc to ISY? http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... orningLinc With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
oberkc Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I have linked the ML to the ISY and created a scene with the RL as the controller. What are the responder devices in this scene? Link to comment
Vince Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The ML is the only responder. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Vince The way the MorningLinc is added to the ISY is critical. Start Linking must be used and the third linking option to "keep existing links" must be used. Otherwise the MorningLinc will not accept commands from the ISY. If that procedure was not followed when the MonrningLinc was added it must be deleted and added back to the ISY using that method. The UDI Wiki covers the process of adding a MorningLinc to the ISY. Lee Link to comment
Vince Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Lee, The UDI Wiki is what I followed. I did pickup on using the third option. I'll give it another try and see what happens.Thanks. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Check the link between the MorningLinc and the lockset by pressing the Set button on the MorningLinc. The lockset should cycle for each Set button press on the MorningLinc. Link to comment
oberkc Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Unfortunately, my morninglinc failed and a replacement has yet to arrive, so my ISY does not currently have one. I am going by memory. When you added the morninglinc to the ISY, did you not get two devices: "on" and "off"? I thought both of these needed to be added as responder devices. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Lee, The ML does control the lock. I deleted the ML from the ISY and reinstalled it. I could control the lock from the console, opening and closing it. When I created the scene, the RL didn't work and neither did the console any more. I deleted the scene to see if the console would operate the again and it did not, although the current status on console did change when I clicked on and off. Weird. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi Vince, is this RL or RL2? Do you see the status of RL change in the Admin Console when you press the button? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
stillen_i30 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Weird. When I had SmartLinc (for under a week before ordering an ISY), the morninglinc worked perfectly. Once I started using the ISY the ML became sketchy. It ended up never responding to commands again and I am replacing it with a new one. Will update once the new one comes. I plan to use it with a KPL button to open our guest room which is outside the front door of our regular part of the house. I am hoping to use "OFF" as a responder so that the KPL button allows entry into the room and once inside, it can be manually locked. Too bad the ML lock doesn't allow discreet status so we can tell if the door is locked or unlocked. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Vince What ISY firmware is being used? Run Tools | Diagnostics | Show Device Links Table for the MorningLinc. When the display completes click Compare. If you can screen capture the results and post the screen image of the Show and Compare. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi Lee, The image is attached. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The FF -- FF for the first link record indicates the ISY PLM has lost authority to communicate with the MorningLinc. The MorningLinc has a special security feature that other Insteon devices do not have. Suggest a Factory reset of the MorningLinc. Verify the MorningLinc Set button press will continue to cycle the lockset. It should, mine does after a Factory reset. Add the MorningLinc to the ISY again. Sorry about that. It is the only way to establish the ISY PLM as an authorized user of the MorningLinc. Run Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer with Level: Device communications events selected and define the RemoteLinc Scene again. That should show what is happening to the MorningLinc link database that is causing authorization to be lost. If the Event Log is too big to post send it to lwgwork@embarqmail.com. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'll give it a try and let you know. Thanks Lee. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Ok, I did the factory reset of the ML and the comparison data is attached. I'll do another post with the comparison data after creating the scene. Link to comment
Vince Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Here is the data after creating the scene Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Vince Thanks for that screen post. The FF ---FF is the problem. This link record (or what should be a link record) is what authorizes the ISY PLM to send commands to the MorningLinc. Once it is gone On/Off commands will no longer work. Another user is sending me an event trace of the scene creation. I'll post back with what that analysis shows. Lee Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Lee/Vince, Thanks so very much for the trace. We are looking into it. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
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