Keypadlinc Backlight. what do these numbers mean?

[someguy]

If
  - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition')

Then
       Set 'Hearth Keypad / Hearth Keypad' On 15 / Off 0 (Backlight Level)

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

There is an On and an Off level?

 

Is there a separate light for each button?

 

When I set the buttons to non-toggle, each press is read as an "off" by ISY, it seems. why is this?

 

thanks for any help.

[LeeG]

The LED Backlight level controls the button LED brightness level. Regardless of the numbers set for On and Off level the KPL firmware keeps the equivalent value of 8 difference between the On and Off level so that an On button can be differentiated from an Off button. For example, both On and Off levels can be set to 8 but that does not mean the On and Off LED levels are the same. The KPL firmware internally always keeps the equivalent of 8 difference between On and Off levels.

 

An Off level of 0 and On level of 0 is as dim as the LED gets. Incrementing the On level by 1 increases the LED level with an On level of 15 being the highest On level value. From there the Off level can be incremented by 1 until a value of 7 is reached. The Off level of 7 and On Level of 15 is the brightest level.

 

The Backlight level applies to all buttons on the KPL. The Backlight level of individual buttons cannot be set to different levels.

 

There are three button modes. Toggle mode where each button press alternates between On and Off. Non-toggle On mode where each button press sends an On command and non-toggle Off mode where each button press sends an Off command. Each KPL button (except ON/OFF in 6 button mode) can be set to a different toggle mode.

[someguy]

The LED Backlight level controls the button LED brightness level. Regardless of the numbers set for On and Off level the KPL firmware keeps the equivalent value of 8 difference between the On and Off level so that an On button can be differentiated from an Off button. For example, both On and Off levels can be set to 8 but that does not mean the On and Off LED levels are the same. The KPL firmware internally always keeps the equivalent of 8 difference between On and Off levels.

 

An Off level of 0 and On level of 0 is as dim as the LED gets. Incrementing the On level by 1 increases the LED level with an On level of 15 being the highest On level value. From there the Off level can be incremented by 1 until a value of 7 is reached. The Off level of 7 and On Level of 15 is the brightest level.

 

The Backlight level applies to all buttons on the KPL. The Backlight level of individual buttons cannot be set to different levels.

 

There are three button modes. Toggle mode where each button press alternates between On and Off. Non-toggle On mode where each button press sends an On command and non-toggle Off mode where each button press sends an Off command. Each KPL button (except ON/OFF in 6 button mode) can be set to a different toggle mode.

 

so, is there a way to make one of the individual buttons go to a bright or dim setting similar to pressing the button without pressing the button (i.e. using a program)? If so, how.

[LeeG]

Sure, assign the KPL button as a Responder to an ISY Scene. Turning the Scene On and Off turns the KPL button LED On and Off. I am assuming you are asking about a KPL Secondary button (not the load control button). Secondary KPL buttons cannot be turned On/Off with Direct commands. Has to be with a Scene.

[someguy]

How are the load buttons controlled? Can they be turned on and off independently? If so, how? The same as the other buttons?

[LeeG]

The KPL load control button is controlled in the same as any other Insteon device. It can be turned On/Off with Direct commands as would be used with a SwitchLinc, LampLinc, ApplianceLinc, etc. Of course it can be a Responder or Controller of a Scene. Turning the Scene On/Off turns the KPL load On/Off just as a Direct command would.

 

The exception with a KPL is a Secondary button cannot be controlled with Direct commands. The KPL has one Insteon address. The Insteon Direct On/Off commands have no means of specifying which KPL button to apply the command to. An Insteon Direct On/Off command sent to a KPL controls the KPL load and load button(s).

[someguy]

I guess I wasn't specific enough. I am wanting to know how to control the backlight for the bigger buttons for the 6 button keypadlinc. Is it the same as the other four buttons? (I'm not using the switch to control anything, just using it with isy.

[LeeG]

The first statement in the Then clause turns the ON button LEDs On.

 

The second statement in the Then clause turns the OFF button LEDs On

 

If

Then
       Set 'KPL Floor Dimmer 6' On
       Set 'KPL Floor Dimmer 6' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

If there was something connected to the Red load wire these statements would also turn the load On and Off

[someguy]

So do the top and bottom buttons' backightl only have on or off capability?

[LeeG]

Yes. In 6 button mode the ON and OFF buttons are complementary. They represent the physical load (if Red wire connected) On/Off status. The ON button LEDs are bright when the load is On and the OFF button LEDs are bright when the load is Off. If a Dimmer the ON and OFF buttons can dim and brighten the load. They can also dim and brighten a Scene regardless of whether the KPL is a Relay or a Dimmer.

 

Of course the ON/OFF buttons can function as a Controller of one Scene, turning the Scene On and Off independent of whether a load is attached to the Red wire.

 

Some folks have configured a 6 button KPL in 8 button mode (or used an 8 button KPL) using the large double buttons in the top and bottom positions (sometimes in all four positions). In 8 button mode the A/B buttons function independently of the G/H buttons so the A/B buttons can be used to control Scene X and G/H buttons can be used to control Scene Y. Normally custom labels are used in this situation as ON and OFF no longer have any meaning when in 8 button mode.