satwar Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I have a temperature monitoring device with contact closure at limits. I jumpered +5V to I1+ and wired the contact outputs of monitoring device between I1- and Ground. One of the ISY entries for the EZIO2x4 seems to toggle on/off as I manipulate contact closure on the monitoring device. (1) How can I reverse the logic so that no contact closure produces an "on" signal from EZIO2x4 ? (2) When I connect a second contact closure device, do I wire up the same as I1 except using I2+ and I2- ?
LeeG Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Simple one first, yes I2 is wired the same as I1. I2+ to 5V and I2- is switched to Gnd. Note that Input 3 (AN1) and Input 4 (AN2) should be connected to Gnd if not used to prevent them from floating and generating unwanted message traffic. These inputs do not have a pullup resister built in because they can optionally function as analog inputs. The commands can be reversed. It requires running the Simplehomenet Utility Suite (free download from SHN web site) which requires a PLM to act as the powerline interface. The ISY PLM can be used if no spare PLM is available. The SHN Utility makes no changes to the PLM so the only impact is the ISY is down while the SHN Utility is being run. Also requires a Windows environment on a PC with a Serial connection if using the ISY PLM. Once the SHN Utility is connected to a PLM select the EZIOxx tab. Enter the EZIO2X4 Insteon address in Insteon ID field. Once connected to the EZIO2X4 select Inputs Settings and Monitor tab. The specific Input is selected from the Insteon All_Links Group Commands Setting | Input pulldown. Click Read to read the current Input settings. The Off to On (11) and On to Off (13) field values are reversed. Off to On is set to 13 and On to Off is set to 11. Click Write to save the changes.
satwar Posted September 25, 2012 Author Posted September 25, 2012 Wow, thank you. I'm confused about this serial port business. The ISY has a RJ45 cable plugged into 2413S insteon module (PLM). Now how do I plug this 2413S into a computer using this RJ45 cable ?
Xathros Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 LeeG- Slightly off topic here but, do you know if the Simplehomenet utility will work with the 2413U PLM ? My only windows runs in a VM on a MAC so USB is my only option. I would like to get myself setup with a few more advanced tools for mucking with the insteon settings that the ISY doesn't manipulate directly. Aside from the cost of the USB PLM, the SHN utility fits my budget. -Xathros
LeeG Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Yes, the SHN Utility works with a Serial or USB PLM including the special 'H' HouseLinc variant. Also works with the small USB RF PLM. All the PLMs interface in exactly the same way (as though they were serial) using the same command set. Although the later versions of the SHN Utility display the cat/subcat values when it connects with the PLM the Utility has no awareness of the type of PLM as far as execution is concerned. The latest version on the SHN web site supports I2CS as far as the Checksum requirement. It can read and write a link database of an I2CS device so long as the PLM is authorized. It has no function to authorize a PLM to access an I2CS device.
satwar Posted September 25, 2012 Author Posted September 25, 2012 But how do I connect a PC to the 2413S PLM ?
LeeG Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Using a Serial port. There are some USB to Serial adaptors on the market. Some have proven to be unreliable, others seem to work pretty well. I have no direct experience as I have Serial Ports on my PCs. Since the usage would be very limited which USB to Serial adaptor may not matter.
LeeG Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 My apologies. Each PLM comes with a cable with a Serial connector on one end and an RJ45 connector on the other. This cable is tucked inside the folds of the interior packing material of the PLM box.
satwar Posted September 25, 2012 Author Posted September 25, 2012 I got a insteon usb stick talking to a 2443 Access Point, but that's not good enough. So this is way too much work. I'll change the contact logic in the sending device and leave the ezio2x4 alone. Thanks for your help, just the same
Xathros Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Yes, the SHN Utility works with a Serial or USB PLM including the special 'H' HouseLinc variant. Also works with the small USB RF PLM. All the PLMs interface in exactly the same way (as though they were serial) using the same command set. Although the later versions of the SHN Utility display the cat/subcat values when it connects with the PLM the Utility has no awareness of the type of PLM as far as execution is concerned. The latest version on the SHN web site supports I2CS as far as the Checksum requirement. It can read and write a link database of an I2CS device so long as the PLM is authorized. It has no function to authorize a PLM to access an I2CS device. Thanks LeeG. As always, that was exactly what I needed to know. -Xathros
Brian H Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Satwar, Read LeeG's earlier response. The USB RF PLM should be supported by the later SHN Utilities. I believe it will show up as a serial type device as its drivers make it look like a serial port.
satwar Posted September 26, 2012 Author Posted September 26, 2012 Satwar, Read LeeG's earlier response. The USB RF PLM should be supported by the later SHN Utilities.I believe it will show up as a serial type device as its drivers make it look like a serial port. Yes I agree, but I couldn't connect to EZIO2x4. First step of connecting to PLM seemed to work but got no response from EZIO2x4 when I typed in Insteon ID address
Xathros Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 satwar- Ensure that the access point is within RF range of the usb plm and that both the access point and EZIO are on the same phase of your electrical system. -Xathros
satwar Posted September 26, 2012 Author Posted September 26, 2012 Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. I was out of RF range. I was ready to throw this USB PLM out, because it wouldn't work, and all along I was out of range. Unbelievable !
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