daxiang28 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 The more and more that I get spoiled by my Insteon integration throughout the house, the more I notice things that are not integrated, such as my RF Remote controlled gas fireplace. I was wondering if anybody knows about how to capture a couple of RF commands from the remote and use Insteon to broadcast it via a program. Could this be a combo of using something plugged into an OutletLinc? Thanks, Steve
gviliunas Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Hi Steve, I am using the NO relay output of an I/O Linc to control my fireplace however I took some steps to reduce the chances of the fireplace coming on when this is not desired. In the past, I have had incidents of one device turning on causing all devices in my house and garage to turn on. In my case the problem occurs about 1 time every 3-4 months. At this point, I think it is related to a motion sensor battery but can't be 100% sure which device is causing the trouble. With this in mind and still wanting an automated fireplace I did the following: 1. The I/O Link relay is wired in series with an existing wall thermostat. If the fireplace does come on, it will not dangerously overheat the house. 2. My 1st Floor All ON program does not trigger the fireplace ON. 3. My 1st Floor All OFF program commands the fireplace OFF, waits 5 seconds and commands it OFF again. 4. My alarm system being set turns off all lights and commands the fireplace OFF. 5. At 1:00AM when I am checking if all the lights are off, a command to turn off the fireplace will be sent as well. 5. I have a Party scene that will set some lights and start the fireplace if a KPL button is triggered with a Fast ON. A regular ON command only triggers the lights. 6. A RemoteLinc button is the only device, other than the PLM linked to the fireplace I/O Linc. I understand that some of this may not be necessary but I want to try to minimize my risk with fire and I love my current implementation. Good Luck and Enjoy your automated fireplace! Greg
Brian H Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 You will need more information on the fireplaces controls model number. There is no universal RF frequency used by all manufacturers. So you would have to know the model so it maybe possible to find the frequency it used and maybe the codes also.
Xathros Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 You will need more information on the fireplaces controls model number.There is no universal RF frequency used by all manufacturers. So you would have to know the model so it maybe possible to find the frequency it used and maybe the codes also. Steve, Brian- I think there is a device called the RedEye which can learn IR commands from an existing remote and be commanded to send said commands via a network call. I have been thinking about picking one of these up for control of my non-networked A/V gear. Also allows use of iDevices and Android devices as remotes I believe. This of course would require the network module for the ISY and offers NO feedback to the ISY as to the current status of the end device. -Xathros Edit: Here is a link: http://thinkflood.com/products/redeye/
daxiang28 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 Hi Steve, I am using the NO relay output of an I/O Linc to control my fireplace however I took some steps to reduce the chances of the fireplace coming on when this is not desired. In the past, I have had incidents of one device turning on causing all devices in my house and garage to turn on. In my case the problem occurs about 1 time every 3-4 months. At this point, I think it is related to a motion sensor battery but can't be 100% sure which device is causing the trouble. With this in mind and still wanting an automated fireplace I did the following: 1. The I/O Link relay is wired in series with an existing wall thermostat. If the fireplace does come on, it will not dangerously overheat the house. 2. My 1st Floor All ON program does not trigger the fireplace ON. 3. My 1st Floor All OFF program commands the fireplace OFF, waits 5 seconds and commands it OFF again. 4. My alarm system being set turns off all lights and commands the fireplace OFF. 5. At 1:00AM when I am checking if all the lights are off, a command to turn off the fireplace will be sent as well. 5. I have a Party scene that will set some lights and start the fireplace if a KPL button is triggered with a Fast ON. A regular ON command only triggers the lights. 6. A RemoteLinc button is the only device, other than the PLM linked to the fireplace I/O Linc. I understand that some of this may not be necessary but I want to try to minimize my risk with fire and I love my current implementation. Good Luck and Enjoy your automated fireplace! Greg Thanks Greg. Unfortunately, my fireplace doesn't have a hardwired thermostat. It only has two modes: switch controlled on or electronic remote controlled (which has a thermostat on it). I'm guessing this makes it complicated since I can could theoretically capture the RF, but not have a safety of a thermostat to control the temp. In an ideal situation, it would be tied into some generic temp sensor to control the on/off independent of the remote.
daxiang28 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 You will need more information on the fireplaces controls model number.There is no universal RF frequency used by all manufacturers. So you would have to know the model so it maybe possible to find the frequency it used and maybe the codes also. Steve, Brian- I think there is a device called the RedEye which can learn IR commands from an existing remote and be commanded to send said commands via a network call. I have been thinking about picking one of these up for control of my non-networked A/V gear. Also allows use of iDevices and Android devices as remotes I believe. This of course would require the network module for the ISY and offers NO feedback to the ISY as to the current status of the end device. -Xathros Edit: Here is a link: http://thinkflood.com/products/redeye/ Thanks Xathros, Unfortunately, the remote is RF and not line-of-sight IR. RedEye sounds like a great AV solution. Steve
daxiang28 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 You will need more information on the fireplaces controls model number.There is no universal RF frequency used by all manufacturers. So you would have to know the model so it maybe possible to find the frequency it used and maybe the codes also. Thanks Brian. Once captured what would you use to broadcast the RF? According to the mfg, it uses a 315mhz RF frequency. Steve
Xathros Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks Xathros, Unfortunately, the remote is RF and not line-of-sight IR. RedEye sounds like a great AV solution. Steve Wow. I read that 3 times and never caught that. -X
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