vicrose Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 So this is a very simple task....or so I thought. I basically just want the d button on a KPL to show me the current status of my garage door. I do not want to control the door with the KPL to avoid accidental opening. I have read many Garage door status related threads but can not get this to work reliably. I would be very grateful for help with my specific to my situation. Basically if the door is open then the KPL.D should be lit, if its closed it should be off. If the door is opened and closed using the car opener or opener on the garage I need to be able to update the LED, sensor updates do not seem to be sent in this case. If the KPL button is pushed the LED should just go back to the current garage door state. So if someone pushes it and its on I would like it to query and turn it self back on if the sensor still shows the door is open. If the door is closed the LED should wind up off. I have the new 74551 kit. I have the I/OLinc set to Momentary C currenlty as shown in the docs. However ON commands from ISY seem to respond regardless of status. When the door is closed the LED on IOLinc is on and the status reads as ON when queried in ISY994. I have a scene for Garage_Status currnely containing the KPL button and the Garage_Door_Sensor. Thanks in advance for any insight. I dont know why this is stumping me, I have been using insteon stuff for years but just started using an ISY.
LeeG Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 The I/O Linc Sensor functions regardless of how the door opener is commanded to move. Watch the Green LED on the I/O Linc where the wires connect. Does this consistently shoe On when door is closed and Off when door is open (this assumes using the new kit with only a NC magnetic contact). Determine if the Green LED is accurate all the time. If not there is a magnetic sensor or wiring problem. When the Green LED is determined to be correct ALL the time, and the KPL LED is not there is a comm problem between the I/O Linc location and the ISY PLM. Independent of the consistency issue the I/O Linc Sensor has to be set to Trigger Reverse to have the KPL button LED Off when the door is closed. A better solution is use a NO magnetic switch as Trigger Reverse has other issues associated with Query. When controlling the I/O Linc Relay from the Admin Console Insteon Direct commands are used. Nothing in the Smarthome I/O Linc publications describes how the Relay works with Direct commands. A Direct command ALWAYS turns the Relay On. If you want the various command actions versus Sensor states and Momentary mode described in the Smarthome publications, use an ISY Scene with the I/O Linc Relay as a Responder. "If the KPL button is pushed the LED should just go back to the current garage door state. So if someone pushes it and its on I would like it to query and turn it self back on if the sensor still shows the door is open. If the door is closed the LED should wind up off. " This requires an ISY Program with logic to check the status of the I/O Linc Sensor. Easy to do but get the KPL button showing an accurate state of the door first. Then add the bells and whistles.
vicrose Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 Got it, so me sending an "On" via ISY will always trigger the relay, that explains why I was seeing this behavior which contradicts the IOLinc manual. I also found that the version of the firmware I had 3.2.6 has a bug with setting IOLinc so I just upgraded it to 3.3.6 and confirmed momentaryC and Trigger Reverse are set. It appears the KPL LED does switch when opening and closing the door via ISY after adding the sensor and kpl button to a scene. I can also confirm the LED on the IOLinc does reliably change with open and close of the door. I will test a bit more but now I just need to programs to monitor staus and always make sure the LED is correct. On a related note is there a way to tell the ISY to say run a query every 15 minutes? I cant not seem to find a way to execute a program on a schedule like that. Thanks! The I/O Linc Sensor functions regardless of how the door opener is commanded to move. Watch the Green LED on the I/O Linc where the wires connect. Does this consistently shoe On when door is closed and Off when door is open (this assumes using the new kit with only a NC magnetic contact). Determine if the Green LED is accurate all the time. If not there is a magnetic sensor or wiring problem. When the Green LED is determined to be correct ALL the time, and the KPL LED is not there is a comm problem between the I/O Linc location and the ISY PLM. Independent of the consistency issue the I/O Linc Sensor has to be set to Trigger Reverse to have the KPL button LED Off when the door is closed. A better solution is use a NO magnetic switch as Trigger Reverse has other issues associated with Query. When controlling the I/O Linc Relay from the Admin Console Insteon Direct commands are used. Nothing in the Smarthome I/O Linc publications describes how the Relay works with Direct commands. A Direct command ALWAYS turns the Relay On. If you want the various command actions versus Sensor states and Momentary mode described in the Smarthome publications, use an ISY Scene with the I/O Linc Relay as a Responder. "If the KPL button is pushed the LED should just go back to the current garage door state. So if someone pushes it and its on I would like it to query and turn it self back on if the sensor still shows the door is open. If the door is closed the LED should wind up off. " This requires an ISY Program with logic to check the status of the I/O Linc Sensor. Easy to do but get the KPL button showing an accurate state of the door first. Then add the bells and whistles.
LeeG Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 A Program can issue a Repeat every 15 minutes followed by a Query of the I/O Linc. However, that should not be necessary if comm is okay. Also Trigger Reverse does not affect the Query response. Trigger Reverse reverses the commands issue by the Sensor but it does not reverse the state returned by Query. The Query returns the actual true state of the Sensor which is On when the door is closed with the NC magnetic switch in the current kit. If you absolutely have to Query change the magnetic switch to a NO and turn off Trigger Reverse.
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