Michel Kohanim Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hello All, Version 2.4 is now available. For more information, please checkout our Wiki Site. This release migrates the file system. As such, please make sure to backup your configuration BEFORE and AFTER the update. Thanks and with kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Sanctuary Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Good job guys this release is got some cool stuff in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarthur Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 If I have been following the forum discussions correctly, the version 2.5 beta - released as a series of version 2.4 updates - has been out and receiving constructive user feedback for several months. I am wondering if its stability and maturity are nearing a point where you will set a date for its release. After going through a prolonged period of pain and misery while I learned the quirks of Insteon devices and the ISY-26, everything seems to be running reliably. The trick of stacking the first Accesspoint with the PLM seems to have made a huge improvement. So having reached a sort of truce with my system, I am hesitant to jump down to the bottom of a new learning curve unless there is the promise of serious added value. 2.5 seems to have that added value; I am very intrigued about being able to write conditional statements. This moves the ISY to a new level of intelligent device control. I just don't want to take a chance on a potentially unstable beta. On a completely different and unrelated subject that probably should not be posted here, you might want to put in your FAQs someplace, thanks to a tech at Smarthome, that if an Insteon device is controlling a light with a CF bulb, the voltage spike that it sends back to its controller when it is switched off can trigger the device's internal switch to immediately turn the Insteon device back on. This happened at my house: I have two identical lamps, both with the same type of 34W CF bulb, each plugged into separate lamplincs. I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. Without this factoid, you might assume that the problem was with the controller. -GA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 On a completely different and unrelated subject that probably should not be posted here, you might want to put in your FAQs someplace, thanks to a tech at Smarthome, that if an Insteon device is controlling a light with a CF bulb, the voltage spike that it sends back to its controller when it is switched off can trigger the device's internal switch to immediately turn the Insteon device back on. This happened at my house: I have two identical lamps, both with the same type of 34W CF bulb, each plugged into separate lamplincs. I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. Without this factoid, you might assume that the problem was with the controller. -GA Interesting..... I put a KPL back in last week and have the load tiggered by my ELK (when front door opens and its dark outside turn light on for 4 minutes, restart timers if zone still violated). The light turns on and turns off 4 minutes later but then turns back on right away and off a few seconds later and back on and cycles for about 5 minutes. I did see in the GUI for the ISY a communication problem which I thought was the PLM being so weak and that it was retrying and waiting for an acknowledgement. Maybe its the light itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. That's an interesting one! You should swap the CFLs around if possible to see if the problem follows the CFL or stays with the LampLinc. What brand are they? I did notice something similar a couple times in one of my bathrooms. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I no longer have CFLs in there (I didn't keep them there for long). It happened when I manually controlled the switch (a SwitchLinc V2 Dimmer). They were probably Honeywells. I haven't noticed an issue anywhere else in my house. I have a few locations with Honeywell and Sylvania CFLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Digger, This might have nothing to do with the KPL/PLM. Do you have the latest firmware/bootware for ELK? Also, please make sure all the devices have the Future bit set under lighting in ELKRM. With kind regards, Michel On a completely different and unrelated subject that probably should not be posted here, you might want to put in your FAQs someplace, thanks to a tech at Smarthome, that if an Insteon device is controlling a light with a CF bulb, the voltage spike that it sends back to its controller when it is switched off can trigger the device's internal switch to immediately turn the Insteon device back on. This happened at my house: I have two identical lamps, both with the same type of 34W CF bulb, each plugged into separate lamplincs. I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. Without this factoid, you might assume that the problem was with the controller. -GA Interesting..... I put a KPL back in last week and have the load tiggered by my ELK (when front door opens and its dark outside turn light on for 4 minutes, restart timers if zone still violated). The light turns on and turns off 4 minutes later but then turns back on right away and off a few seconds later and back on and cycles for about 5 minutes. I did see in the GUI for the ISY a communication problem which I thought was the PLM being so weak and that it was retrying and waiting for an acknowledgement. Maybe its the light itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 gwarthur, Thanks so very much for the feedback and update. Release 2.5 will surely add a lot more features/ehancements. With your permission, I am going to add a link to your post in our Communication Error section. Thanks so very much and please don't hesitate to contact us (we would surely like to reduce the amount of pain and misery). With kind regards, Michel If I have been following the forum discussions correctly, the version 2.5 beta - released as a series of version 2.4 updates - has been out and receiving constructive user feedback for several months. I am wondering if its stability and maturity are nearing a point where you will set a date for its release. After going through a prolonged period of pain and misery while I learned the quirks of Insteon devices and the ISY-26, everything seems to be running reliably. The trick of stacking the first Accesspoint with the PLM seems to have made a huge improvement. So having reached a sort of truce with my system, I am hesitant to jump down to the bottom of a new learning curve unless there is the promise of serious added value. 2.5 seems to have that added value; I am very intrigued about being able to write conditional statements. This moves the ISY to a new level of intelligent device control. I just don't want to take a chance on a potentially unstable beta. On a completely different and unrelated subject that probably should not be posted here, you might want to put in your FAQs someplace, thanks to a tech at Smarthome, that if an Insteon device is controlling a light with a CF bulb, the voltage spike that it sends back to its controller when it is switched off can trigger the device's internal switch to immediately turn the Insteon device back on. This happened at my house: I have two identical lamps, both with the same type of 34W CF bulb, each plugged into separate lamplincs. I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. Without this factoid, you might assume that the problem was with the controller. -GA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarthur Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. That's an interesting one! You should swap the CFLs around if possible to see if the problem follows the CFL or stays with the LampLinc. What brand are they? I did notice something similar a couple times in one of my bathrooms. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I no longer have CFLs in there (I didn't keep them there for long). It happened when I manually controlled the switch (a SwitchLinc V2 Dimmer). They were probably Honeywells. I haven't noticed an issue anywhere else in my house. I have a few locations with Honeywell and Sylvania CFLs. The bulbs are 'N:vision' 30W units, model 28930BD. -GA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarthur Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 gwarthur, Thanks so very much for the feedback and update. Release 2.5 will surely add a lot more features/ehancements. With your permission, I am going to add a link to your post in our Communication Error section. Thanks so very much and please don't hesitate to contact us (we would surely like to reduce the amount of pain and misery). With kind regards, Michel If I have been following the forum discussions correctly, the version 2.5 beta - released as a series of version 2.4 updates - has been out and receiving constructive user feedback for several months. I am wondering if its stability and maturity are nearing a point where you will set a date for its release. After going through a prolonged period of pain and misery while I learned the quirks of Insteon devices and the ISY-26, everything seems to be running reliably. The trick of stacking the first Accesspoint with the PLM seems to have made a huge improvement. So having reached a sort of truce with my system, I am hesitant to jump down to the bottom of a new learning curve unless there is the promise of serious added value. 2.5 seems to have that added value; I am very intrigued about being able to write conditional statements. This moves the ISY to a new level of intelligent device control. I just don't want to take a chance on a potentially unstable beta. On a completely different and unrelated subject that probably should not be posted here, you might want to put in your FAQs someplace, thanks to a tech at Smarthome, that if an Insteon device is controlling a light with a CF bulb, the voltage spike that it sends back to its controller when it is switched off can trigger the device's internal switch to immediately turn the Insteon device back on. This happened at my house: I have two identical lamps, both with the same type of 34W CF bulb, each plugged into separate lamplincs. I happened to be in the room when it came time for the ISY to switch one off. I heard its relay click and saw the lamp blink , but then it remained on. This still happens from time to time. Rarely a problem turning it on, but sometimes I find it on long after it should be off. Yet its twin has no such problems. I figure that either the lamplincs have different sensitivities to reactive 'flyback' voltage or there is enough variation in CF bulb construction that one puts out a bigger jolt to the lamplinc than does the other. Without this factoid, you might assume that the problem was with the controller. -GA Have you set a release date for the final version of 2.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Have you set a release date for the final version of 2.5? Yes, 12/10/2007. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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