JSchumann Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 2475S2 - I hooked up per the wiring diagram with a Heath/Zenith PIR that works with a floodlight. For some reason the sense doesn't seem to be picking up. I tried the set button thing (press till it beeps, then press set 3 times), still doesn't work Removed from circuit, flood works with PIR fine. I put the LineLinc on a test bed and tried it, applied hot to sense (vice using a PIR) and it came on OK. Is it possible the Heath/Zenith PIR isn't compatible? Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsobel Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I have two of these units working with Zenith detectors (rewired detector/light kits) Can you post a picture of how you wired it up (or) at a minimum list what color wires you tied to what? Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSchumann Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Exactly like the wirning with sense diagram. For the PIR....Blue and Black to Black 120 Hot, White to White (Neutral), Red PIR to yellow Sense, then the red switched to the Flood Hot... Note this PIR has a slow on slow off feature, possibly the linelinc is expecting a fast ramp to 120? Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsobel Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 They should turn on whenever enough current is on that line, a slow ramp should be fine. Did you take a voltage tester and confirm the sensor is getting powered all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 If the Heath/Zenith PIR motion head is electronic rather than relay based they often do not work with the InLineLinc w/Sense as an add on. These PIR motion heads support Dual Bright and other things that makes them incompatible with the InLineLinc w/Sense that is expecting a full swing between 0 and 120v which the electronic PIR motion head does not provide. A search of the Smarthome forum on this subject should show multiple hits documenting the problem with the Heath/Zenith PIR motion head and the InLineLinc w/sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSchumann Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 LeeG, Thats what I deduced from my bench test, had to be the PIR - it does have dual bright and ramp on/off. So what is a good one to get? How do you tell if the PIR has a relay???? Disappointed as the insteon literature says 'use with your own PIR'...... John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I use COOPER Lighting motion heads. They are relay based, at least the ones I buy. Stores such as Lowes and Home Depot have demo walls set up with the various PIR motion heads. I get the ones that the relay click can be clearly heard when motion is sensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSchumann Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 I see a Cooper MS180W for about 20 on Amazon, it that the one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I think so. Mine are MS240 (the 240 being the degrees of field of view). I would guess the W stands for White. Mine are brown and have no letter after the degrees number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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