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    What to do with Polisy after upgrading to eisy?

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    On 2/4/2024 at 1:22 PM, jec6613 said:

    The only idea I've had so far is to take the quite attractive aluminum case and use it to make a nifty enclosure of some sort, even if it's just a giant, oversized ZMatter enclosure.

    I'm in an even more comical situation.  Built a new house a few years ago just when Polisy was coming out. None were available so I bought an ISY.  Then ISY stop supporting the latest version of nodeservers on a Raspberry Pi, so I bought a Polisy and installed some nodeservers (that would have run on the the RPi) with intention of moving the ISY to Polisy and updating the the new nodeserver version a short time later.  Unfortunately a couple of the nodeservers I needed wern't yet ported so I never moved. Instead I started using Home Assistant on a Small PC and integrated with the ISY to get the functionality I wanted, with the intention of moving everything once the nodeservers were available. 

    Well I never did move and found that only two of the five nodeservers were something I needed/used and one of the two I used went away - myQ. So I plan to move the one I use, envisalink, over to Home Assistant and turn off the Polisy. No point in moving to Eisy at this point. Besides it might be superseded before I have time to integrate.

    Is there a market for lightly used Polisy's? 

    Admin Console won't load programs

    in ISY994

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    14 minutes ago, bgrubb1 said:

    Admin Console is very slow or hangs

    • If the admin console is slow to respond, it is likely you need to increase the amount of memory allocated to the Java runtime (JRE).
    • Open the Java Control Panel, select Java tab, press View button, then add or modify the Runtime Parameter -Xmx to the following:
      • -Xmx512m
    • Press Ok to close the window, then Press Apply to save the changes

    Thanks!!! It worked and the console loaded so much faster. You're a life saver.

    Paul

    Admin Console won't load programs

    in ISY994

    Posted

    Hi,

    Have an ISY with no updates for several years.  Tried to go in and edit a program. Console loaded, but every time I go to the programs tab it locks up showing a popup saying "loading scene widgets". Have rebooted the laptop, checked java version, and rebooted the isy to no avail.

    Any ideas?

    Paul

    Is Yolink node server cloud based?

    in YoLink

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, apostolakisl said:

    Looking at maybe doing some yolink stuff.  But I want the node server to access locally, no cloud.  Can't figure out from the description here is the node server is locally accessing the hub or it is accessing Yolink's server.  Thanks

    Yea, it is cloud based.

    Table of PG3 node servers

    in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)

    Posted · Edited by palayman

    1 hour ago, Geddy said:

    I think most (as with PG2) have always just taken the leap of faith a little more blindly and trusted that there would be support for the systems they're using. 

    Unfortunately I was one of them. I thought it would be wonderful.  Open hardware (Raspberry Pi) and open source software.  Beautiful.  Then there was the short lived Policy,  PG3 and node servers with no source and no tangible support commitments.

    My wife is severely disabled and has come to be dependent on home automation to give her some degree of independence. Unanticipated change is not desirable. Hence my diligence. 

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    Table of PG3 node servers

    in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)

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    3 minutes ago, Geddy said:

    Do you mean trial before you buy? Or something specific to the license? 

      

    @palayman many node servers do offer a trial period. This gives you the ability to install and make sure they work before you commit. That information is usually seen in the details of each node server. 

    Elk (for example) shows this:

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    So you can try it for a month then pay $30 to have ongoing access to it. 

     

    As to your first question, I mean let us see the license terms before I even try it.

    Basically I trying to figure out if is worth while moving from my ISY and PG2 to the Polisy I have owned for almost 2 years and PG3 (which has already been replaced by the EISY) versus moving entirely to Home Assistant.  Don't really want to invest in the move until I've assessed fully the costs and benefits for my particular situation. I think this is reasonable.

    Table of PG3 node servers

    in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)

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    53 minutes ago, bpwwer said:

    And no also to the second question.  The license the node server is released under is determined by the node server developer. It would be illegal for a third party to release the source if the developer doesn't allow it.

    Is this license available for review before you purchase or use the node server?

    Table of PG3 node servers

    in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)

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    27 minutes ago, bpwwer said:

    Ratings and reviews are a good idea.  I'll have to think about how that could work.

    The formal difference between the stores is supposed to be the expectations of the users.  The non-production store was set up to provide developers a way to test both the node server and the actual release process with the expectation that not everything may work.   Node servers in the production store are expected to work.

    Support levels are currently defined exclusively by the developers of the node servers.   My personal opinion is that the cost should reflect the expected level of support.  The higher the cost, the higher the expectation is for support.  Nobody should expect that a node server that is free will have the same level of support as one that cost $100, but again, that's my opinion. 

     

    Perhaps the developers should provide some statement of support expectations in the table so users could decide if it seems adequate for their needs. Then there is no expectation mismatch.

    Is it safe to assume source code for node servers in the production store is not provided? Somewhat concerned that a developer might get pulled away or disappear.  Could there should be a mechanism for the source to be made available after some period of time if the this should happen.

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    Table of PG3 node servers

    in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)

    Posted · Edited by palayman

    18 hours ago, bpwwer said:

    @palaymanYes  polyglot.universal-devices.com lists all current node servers and clicking on the node server brings up the details including price(s).

    This is awesome!

    A few questions. Mainly for someone at UDI.

    Any thought of adding ratings and/or node server reviews to this table?

    What is the formal difference between production and non-production stores?

    Are there any guarantees that node servers in the production store will be supported for a reasonable period of time and changes to the third party API will be supported promptly?

    Just want to understand what I'm signing up for.  Was not happy when I couldn't move to PG3 when a couple of node servers I was using weren't available during the transition from PG2. Currently running Home Assistant in parallel to gain access to these.

    Paul

    PS Love the Solution Tag UDI has added to threads!

    Expansion tank forces water through leak after system water is off

    in YoLink

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    On 1/27/2023 at 11:09 PM, TimtheToolMan said:

    When water leak is found Yolink shutoff valve cuts water to house but water is forced from expansion tank into system and out leak. Has anyone solved this issue? Possibly use smart plug and solenoid water valve to drain system when leak occurs.

    Use another Yolink valve to dump the pressure tank into a convenient location after you turn off the water to the house.  I use one to dump water from the pool if rain over fills it.

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