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You won't need any gauges. It is probably the circuit boards. If it is the compressor, then again, no gauges needed, the compressor just won't run. If your AC unit is really old, it won't have any circuit boards, just a contactor and a thermostat. You can check for voltage at the unit with a multimeter and see if the contactor pulls in when the thermostat calls. If not, you can manually push it in with a non-conducting rod of some sort (like a wood pencil) and see if the compressor starts. if not, you might be toast. Could be capacitors. If it is capacitors, the unit will try to start but fail. They can be replaced easily. If the thermostat is calling, but the contactor doesn't pull in, it could be the thermostat.

No, you just plug it in. Go to tools, diagnostics, plm info and make sure it sees your plm and has the correct address.

@HTTRC I feel your pain. I have a similar thread going here. Also lost two AC units. One was the control board for the air handler and the other the control board for condensing unit. Fortunately, I just happened to have a spare for the air handler and got it back up right away (I know it is weird to have a spare for that, long story. . ). They don't make those boards anymore (15 years old) but ebay had them for cheap, $50-70. So I bought a new spare for the indoor unit and a replacement plus a spare for the outdoor unit. The outdoor one is in my mailbox right now, hopefully that fixes that unit. Anyway, I also lost a load of other stuff including my PLM and Polisy. Also, my Elk alarm, my intercom system, a handful of Insteon devices, two webcontrol boards, one ethernet switch, my OBi voice modem, a couple security cameras, my doorbell, a handful of landscape lights, the charging brick for my automatic lawnmower, and more. Anyway, regarding your AC units, if I had hired someone, they would have just sold me two brand new units for probably $30k or something, so if you are up to it, you might take my example. REGARDING YOUR PLM You don't restore the PLM from an ISY backup. I'm assuming your ISY is working fine. Plug the new PLM in and under the "file" menu, select "restore plm". Don't do "delete plm"! If you have any battery operated devices you will need to put them in linking mode. Or just run the restore and then later go back and put those devices in linking mode and write to them later. If you have a large setup, they may time out of liking mode before ISY gets to them. The jist is that ISY will write all the links to the new PLM, but it will have to also change the links in all of the devices to point to the new plm. So it takes a while depending on how many devices.

When I built the house we looked at having lightening rods as part of the build. It was very expensive and of course far more extensive than this. I'm sure the professional one would work well. I just wonder if a rod like this DIY one is effective. So hard to know since it is such a rare thing. 16 years and this is the first time. I also am not sure exactly where the strike was. I can't find any physical damage anywhere. It was most definitely a lightening strike as my wife was at home and says there was a flash/bang simultaneous and instantly the whole house went crazy (mostly the alarm system). I have an Elk and I though those things were bullet proof. I even have the Elk surge suppressor on my system.

I agree, writing programs where you have to keep using drop down menus for everything is very inefficient. It is well suited to having just a few programs that are very infrequently modified because of the fact that you can't make mistakes and don't have to remember the language. Not at all well suited to having lots of programs.

Yes, i actually just ordered the same thing (different brand) from Amazon because UD is not exactly speedy at shipping.

Thanks for the info. Looks like need to move positions 3,5, and 6 to 1, 7, and 8. My wires have different colors than the other post. I'll give it a try when I get home from work. EDIT: Still no luck. I am confident I have the wires moved correctly. I'll order the UD one and see if there is an issue with the console cable, but I just don't think there was.

This is the part that concerns me: If the panel was modified by an installation company, it may retain their custom codes even after a factory reset.

i can't even buy a usb plm right now, out of stock. I did check and indeed the Insteon box is checked. I think I will take my plm's to my church and plug it into the 994i there and confirm that ISY recognizes it before I waste a bunch of time. I guess the next step would to buy the rs232 adapter from UD, but I really don't think it is different.

I will probably end up going to ebay for a used 1832. Trouble is you have to make sure that it has the factory programming password or at least one that they know and tell you.

My eisy came today but I can't get it to connect to plm. My old plm got fried in the lightening strike but I have two spares and neither will connect. via SSH, eisy says the serial adapter is connected. The PLM's are old but I am pretty sure both of them work. I did factory resets on both of them and both do the normal factory reset sound. Ideas? I am using a USB to serial adapter that I already owned, I don't think it is any different than the one UD sells. I tried different ports and have rebooted and power cycled eisy as well as the plm multiple times. [admin@eisy ~]$ dmesg | grep -i usb xhci0: <XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller> mem 0x6001100000-0x600110ffff at device 20.0 on pci0 usbus0 on xhci0 usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 ugen0.1: <Intel XHCI root HUB> at usbus0 uhub0 on usbus0 uhub0: <Intel XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0 Root mount waiting for: usbus0 CAM ugen0.2: <FTDI USB Serial Converter> at usbus0 ugen0.3: <vendor 0x8087 product 0x0026> at usbus0 uftdi0: <FTDI USB Serial Converter, class 0/0, rev 2.00/6.00, addr 1> on usbus0 ubt0: <vendor 0x8087 product 0x0026, class 224/1, rev 2.01/0.02, addr 2> on usbus0 [admin@eisy ~]$ Eisy says

Eisy comes today. I'll open it up and see if it uses the same msata drives. If so, I'll try putting the polisy one in and see what happens. Unless someone thinks it could somehow harm the eisy. And more fried stuff being found. Of course my plm is dead. But a curious one, I have a whole house sound system with 6 controllers that are hard wired back to the main unit. One of the controllers is dead. The rest of the system is working normally. That one controller is in a j-box containing a 2476d switch that is also dead. The j-box is a split jbox, so the low voltage side is decisively separate from the Insteon swtich side. Other Insteon switches controlling the same light and using the same hot wire are fine. How does this happen? To add the insult, the system I use is no longer made and I can't find any individual controllers on ebay. And my intercom system isn't made anymore and I can't find those on ebay, but I can't even figure out what is the faulty part(s).

Astonishing to me. Perhaps authorized installers are getting something to integrate with their own apps, I don't know. But this is infuriating. Everyone else is increasing interoperability and they just shut the whole thing down with their product. I had been using the eyezon unit for years with great success at my office with an 1832 and my church wanted to install an alarm on a new building, so, without thinking, I got a new DSC system since the older 1832 units are discontinued. Big mistake. Probably going to have to pull it all out. And that means all the zone expanders and keypads. The databus on the new is encrypted so nothing is cross compatible with the old system.

The DSC neo is a dead end. Don't buy it. No integration possible in the US. They encrypted the data bus and no one has the encryption but them and they provide zero remote monitoring/control of any sort in the US. Astonishing how they have moved backward 30 years with this.

I opened my polISY and found it has a baby SATA SSD, not an SD card. Not sure what I can plug that into. Perhaps eisy has the same and perhaps it will boot? And it isn't the power supply, I already tried that. Polisy is just dead, no noise, no lights, no nothing. The board has no physical evidence of any issues, don't have any idea what would be fried. Same thing with the two control boards I removed from two of my HVAC units. Both look normal. Replaced one of them already and got one of the two units functional again. So many issues to deal with. Hopefully Spectrum will get me my new modem today, it is also just flat out dead.

@IndyMike Thanks for all that info. Now I'm dealing with a dead polisy after a lightening strike. My eisy which I ordered before the strike is coming tomorrow. I seem to have neglected to make a recent backup of PG3, so now I have that headache as well.

Had what I believe to be a direct strike to the house, though I don't see any physical damage, but we had a flash bang simultaneous and now boat loads of stuff is fried, including my polisy. Won't power up at all, and yes, I tried multiple power supplies, just nothing, no lights, no sounds. As coincidence would have it, I already planned on upgrading to eisy and it was already ordered (lucky I didn't order it a week earlier). Anyway, I have recent backups of ISY, but my backups of PG3 aren't so new. Was wondering if I opened polisy, is there an sd card that perhaps would boot on eisy to get backups? Or other solutions? FYI, list of known "fried" Mind you, I had whole house surge suppressors on every panel and a lot of this stuff was on a UPS. Two of 3 HVAC units have fried circuit boards (one unit had outdoor circuit board die and another had indoor unit, so I was able to swap parts and get one of the two back online while waiting for parts). Elk M1G Elk XEP ? rest of Elk boards, can't test them Spectrum modem Pool Lights Several Insteon Switches (one of my outdoor switches was behind a popped gfci and when I reset it, the Insteon device literally had something explode inside. likely a cap) Luba lawn mower power supply PS5 Intercom System Many wall warts A couple of Security cameras Netgear switch GFCI Outlet Landscape lighting transformer . . .Still finding things Fortunately, all PC's survived as did my Ubiquiti stuff (Dream machine, switches, and several wifi AP's). Not sure if this is good design by ubiquiti or dumb luck. EDIT: Opened it up. See nothing physically wrong. I see that it has a small solid state SATA drive. Perhaps this can be plugged into eisy? Or something else?

You don't need parenthesis at all for this. There is no functional difference between either of the two options you showed as well as no parenthesis at all. Mostly you would use parenthesis when you have two sets of conditions not connected by the same and/or. ie. (1 and 2 and 3) or (4 and 5) (1 or 2 or 3) and (4 or 5) the following are all functionally identical (1 and 2 and 3) (1 and 2) and 3 1 and (2 and 3) 1 and 2 and 3 (1 and 3) and 2

I don't think you are mistaken.

Is there anyway to view programs in a backup without restoring the backup to an ISY unit? I deleted a whole series of programs about a year ago and want them back now. Restoring that backup, however would get rid of a bunch of changes I want. I suppose I could make a backup, restore the old one, copy the programs and the restore the backup I just made. However, I really don't want to do that. Seems like more opportunities for things to go wrong.

So it is odd that anything related to your network would be the issue, like the router booting up after the eisy. Connecting to the peripheral devices would go through the network. and that worked. Yet ISY doesn't connect to PG even thought they are both on the same machine, seems like networking shouldn't be needed. Perhaps all the com protocols still go through the network since originally PG was designed to be on a stand alone device (rpi).

It was not checked. But wouldn't it be better for it to poll the status of programs (or whatever) that are currently displayed? In this case, I need to set it to poll all my programs every time for something I only need 1 percent of the time.

@Javi Suggestion: I read through the instructions linked to the advanced config via the question mark bubble, and it didn't mention that setting this up is tied to the node, not the favorite. I think that is worth putting in there. I would consider that to be something you might want to put as the first note about setting up advanced config since someone might easily see that and just stop before wasting any more time if they only want it to apply to that favorite. EDIT: One more issue, on a different favorite, I am using advanced config to display the status of a program (true idle/true false). But it doesn't seem to poll the value, it only shows it after it changes. Otherwise, blank.

OK, the same name error message appears on all the fan speeds, fyi. And the radio buttons are working great now. thx. Fixed my pool fountain buttons as well.

@JaviUsing the blank space works to make it not show the word "on", but it still shows the word "off"