simplextech

I've sorta followed this but not closely... So what is your scenario? Why do your guests need admin access?

The 5.x release of the ISY firmware added a lot of z-wave device support.

I know this is a little overkill just for the ISY.... but I think it's a whole lot easier... https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500AVRLCD-Intelligent-Outlets-Mini-Tower/dp/B000FBK3QK/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=cyberpower+ups&qid=1585884318&sr=8-3

That null database issue is likely a ghost device caused from the lock not including fully. Read through the August docs on how to perform an "Exclude" from the lock. Go through that and when done then run the z-wave heal. If the Null DB message is gone then it's what I'm thinking. If not then it may be something you need to contact UDI support about.

Now that's odd. The exclude process should not cause that. I think you should contact support as this is weird.

I don't know the exclude sequence for the lock. But just click the Exclude Device in the z-wave dropdown and start the exclude process from the lock. That will reset/exclude the lock and remove any "trace" from the ISY. Then do the Include of the lock again and see if it includes correctly this time.

Progress... good. Have you ran a Z-Wave Heal process after adding the range extenders? If not run that a couple of times. If you don't have a lot of devices it won't take long to run through it. After that's done then exclude the lock that wouldn't include properly and then try the include process again.

There are nice little Wifi bridges or "travel" routers you can use for this. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wireless-Travel-Router-TL-WR902AC/dp/B01N5RCZQH/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=wifi+bridge&qid=1585426719&sr=8-7 https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Ethernet-2-WiFi-Universal-Wireless-GWU637/dp/B018YPWORE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=wifi+bridge&qid=1585426695&sr=8-3 https://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-Filehub-Hotspot-Extender-Streamer/dp/B08229WMSM/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=wifi+bridge&qid=1585426763&sr=8-16 And many more out there. They are very convenient when needing network access from a device that only has ethernet.

You have to add a controller to the ISY as a secondary controller before there is anything to "shift". I think you can add SmartThings as a secondary but I never have and frankly wouldn't try as it may not "shift" back to the ISY and you would have to exclude and include all of your z-wave devices again. I'm also pretty sure you can't use Hubitat for this either because it does not support secondary controllers. Looking at your previous posts your Z-Wave firmware is fine. There's nothing there to update. (unless I'm blind which could be because it's late).

Do you have another hub or ISY or z-wave controller added as a secondary controller?

Way too far for the ISY to include a lock. You will need several more repeaters and at least one that supports beaming. If you have some Z-Wave Plus power plugs then use those. Otherwise if you just need repeaters only that are small buy several of the Aeotec Range Extender 7 units.

Have you brought this z-wave issue up with UDI support? This is something to address not find a work around for.

You can always downgrade the the new ISY to a lower firmware for your testing.

FYI - The last two I've gotten have had 5.x on them from factory.

It's already murky This is the link as posted: https://www.supply.com/toto-s550e-elongated-bidet-seat-sw3056at40-01-cotton-white-with-remote-control/p2254456?campaignid=8195407385&adgroupid=85690516558&adid=426339188604&gclid=Cj0KCQjw09HzBRDrARIsAG60GP_3SDt3qmI86CZVNLqBjmstXZyOVv-lkVgXZJkFHQqwFBcStk7EqHQaAmyaEALw_wcB so is this for the elongated bidet seat... or for the fancy remote control for it? And a bidet with a remote??? ummm??? and why would you want a nodeserver for this??? that's just evil!

I really dislike touch pads....

Hover over the link to read it before clicking... just good practice... and it's a link to a Bidet.

Yes and Yes

What? No Fabio - I can't believe it's not butter!

LOL!

Were the door bell/chime powered or battery? This is interesting. The motion sensor to multiple devices is curious I've never done an association to multiples from a battery sensor only direct to a single powered target. Which is not valid for the popcorn discussion Z-Wave takes more planning for sure.

Z-Wave associations from a scene controller? Or from some controller system? Which controller? -- Now I'm just curious. I'm also not disagreeing as there's a missing piece with Z-Wave broadcasts vs the simulcast from Insteon. The timing is still not there so popcorn can/does happen. Just not as badly when from scene controller to device without a gateway involved. BTW - I don't use z-wave for lighting for this and other reasons.

True from controller managed/sent commands. Z-Wave Associations use broadcast messaging which is sent to all associated devices at the same time. The gotcha here is broadcast messages are non-routing so the devices must generally be in the same room or within communication distance and lots of controllers don't fully support Z-Wave associations and lots of devices do not either.

With Z-Wave sometimes the terms Scene and Association are used interchangeably but in this context of the ISY I will separate them. Scene = ISY function Association = Z-Wave capability To start with not all z-wave devices support multiple associations. If your devices support multiple associations then it is possible to create an association from device to device this is very similar to an Insteon direct link. This association is from device to device and there is no communication to the controller for these. The limitation is that the communication is device to device so they must be within communication range and NO routing of messages are involved as a z-wave broadcast message is used for this. This is very convenient for when you have a z-wave keypad that acts as a scene controller to control multiple light switches. This can be done from device to device such as motion sensor to light switch, or keypad to switch or whatever combination as long as both devices support multiple associations. As far as I know the ISY currently does not have a facility in the Admin Console to setup/manage device associations. (I looked and couldn't find anything). The ISY has the concept of "Scenes" which is a ISY naming for Insteon Groups. Doing groups with Insteon is a natural feature of Insteon and so is direct linking. The ISY took it a step further and allows z-wave devices to be included in these scenes. These scenes are managed from the controller and sends the commands from the controller and is not a direct device association. This is a really cool feature of the ISY of grouping z-wave/Insteon devices together into a scene for use but as far as I know it is not using the Z-Wave association feature of the devices.

I did as well. I just didn't highlight it