Xathros

Any update on this ? Thanks. -X

Michel- I have been toying with this for a while now and I have not been able to prove anything other than 2.7.6 works on Linux and 2.7.7 does not. 2.7.6 has the items in cache named the same way as 2.7.7 If I look at the actual packages that are stored in my cache, they don't relate to what I see in the Java control panel. They have cryptic alphanumeric.zip names instead of insteon.jar or CE.jar. I do see things that are ISY related inside of those packages but I'm no java programmer and wouldn't know what to look for in there. Best I can do is say it "feels like" CE.JAR is the failure point on Linux with 2.7.7 For now, I have rolled back to 2.7.6 and restored my devices. It took me a few hours to get everything working again but its all good now. If you have a list of things you would like me to try with 2.7.7, I'd be happy to test again and record results, logs, whatever. Considering the time and effort it took to recover to this point, I'd rather not do this for anything less than a serious test. As for the "feels like"... On the 2.7.6 console right after login, if I click either Program tab, the tab does not focus until the popup window shows. At that point, CE.JAR arrives in my cache. On the 2.7.7 console, Neither program tab will focus and the popup window never appears. CE.JAR does appear in cache once I click either of the program tabs. Thanks again. Let me know when you have something for me to try. -Xathros

Hi Michel- I have checked my config on every test and my settings have remained as I expected. I have specified a static address. As for the old version of the app being used, I don't think thats the case. I have looked at the java control panel and seen the items in the cache. When I remove them, they do go away. They stay gone until the next time I connect to the ISY. When they are redownloaded from the ISY, I see current date/time stamps on the received files insteon.jar and CE.JAR). Also, last night I tested from a machine that had previously never connected to the ISY - same result. I think that eliminates cache as the culprit. At this point I highly suspect myurl/WEB/CE.JAR as the culprit. This does not appear in my cache until I click a Programs tab. I notice that it is the ONLY file in cache with an UPPERCASE filename.ext Linux is case sensitive where Windows is not - Hmmmmm. Could it be that simple ? I will do some testing tonight and see if that makes any sense. BTW, I notice that insteon.jar comes from myurl/web/insteon.jar - notice that /web/ is lowercase there and /WEB/ is uppercase in the CE.JAR url. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here but I have been bit by the UPPER/lower thing too many times to overlook it now. Thanks. -Xathros

I did as you suggested and still have the same issue with the program tabs however, the status bar now shows "Ready" or "System busy" correctly. I guess this is a step in the right direction. For the moment, I have rolled back to 2.7.6 and all is working as it did before. No other changes to my system other than the isy version change. 2.7.7 is doing something different that Ubuntu does not agree with. One thing I have noticed during this testing: The first time a program tab is selected on a functioning console, there is a "Loading Programs" dialog with a progress bar that pops up. In the non working console, I never see that dialog. I do see other dialogs that pop up during queries and such just fine. Also, during my testing with 2.7.7, I didn't see anything that would allow me to add X10 devices into the tree. I do own the X10 module. Is that feature still included in 2.7.7 or has that been pushed out to a future version ? Let me know if there is anything I can provide to help shed some light on this issue and thanks for all of your help. -Xathros

Well, it works from Firefox on Win XP. Does not work on Firefox on Ubuntu running Java 6.16 Any thoughts ? Thanks. -X

Same result with those. Well 2 and 3 anyway - the first does not find my isy. Also, same result on 3 different systems now. Going to test from a Windows XP VM next. Thanxks. -X

Yes. Closed the browser, cleared the java cache, relaunched the browser, clear it's cache and closed/relaunched again. Still the same. Looks like the 2.7.6 console works for me and the 2.7.7 does not. I can now tell the difference as the 2.7.7 has a blank toolbar icon for new folder that the 2.7.6 console does not have. When 2.7.7 loads, there is a long (15-20 second) delay before the login box displays. 2.7.6 displays the logon and other screens quickly. I have no firewall running and no AV deamon running. The 2.7.7 statusbar always says system busy. What next. TIA -X

A little more info: If I access using the universal-devices/99i url - all seems fine except that I don't see anything new in 2.7.7 there. Using my IP address, I seem to get the old admin console and program tabs are nut functional. Also the status bar shows System Busy the whole time when I know its not. I can use the udi link when I'm home but how do I access this what I'm not home ? I have my port forwards all set up and they work - I just get the wrong console. I'm using Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.10. All worked fine until I updated to 2.7.7 this morning. About returns Ver 2.7.7 regardless of which console I use. Should I just rollback to 2.7.6 ? I purchased the X10 module and have been waiting for 2.7.7 to try it out. Thanks. -X

Just upgraded my 99i from 2.7.6 to 2.7.7 this morning. Cleared my java cache and browser cache. When I log into the admin console, I can see the Main and Config tabs just fine but if I click either of the program tabs I get a blank screen. I tried rebooting the ISY but got the same result. Where do I go from here ? TIA -X

Excellent. This is what I was hoping for. I assume the folder method would also work but for this task I like the disabled program idea better. Thanks. -X

Lets say I have a program that monitors the status of a lamp module, AND has a From-To timeframe but I only want it to run and evaluate the IF when called by another program and not any old time that the IF conditions are true. Can I simply disable the program and run(if) from another program to exec when needed or do I need to enable it and bury it in a folder with a permanently false condition on the folder ? Does calling a disabled program ie: Run(if) override the disabled flag ? I hope that made sense. Thanks in advance. -X

Michel- No problem. I bought the IES screen from Smarthome and rather than trying to swap it out, I'll just use it for now and plan on upgrading to the PoE version sometime down the road. Cross linking doesn't sound feasible so I'll continue for now with the X10 messenger method. I have simplified it a bit already by creating a query scene for each room or area and trigger those queries via X10 when the IES sets a scene. This way I don't need to query discreet devices but rather small groups of devices. Kind of a trade off between moderate network traffic or lots of work. The PoE screen sounds like the perfect solution. Just wish I had done better research before I bought the Tabletop version. Thanks again for your input on this. -X

Add me to the list of those wanting MVars to work with. I have a whole program folder called "Status" that contains kludgy workarounds for the lack of MVars. I agree they are not "Necessary" BUT boy would they make life much easier in the ISY world. -X

Hi Walter. I would be looking at the difference between status and control. If one is on then the other comes on I think it would work like this: Prog 1: If status Trigger Link is On AND Control Motion Sensor is switched on Then Run I'm Home (then) Prog 2: If status Motion Sensor is on AND control Trigger link is switched on Then Run I'm leaving (then) You don't really need the I'm Home and I'm Leaving programs. You can just add what you need to the then side of the test programs. I just like to keep my stuff modular for reuse elsewhere. Hope this helps. -X

Thanks Michael. I was afraid that would be the answer. I think I'll keep what I have for now until I can afford to buy another touchscreen. I'm sure I'll be able to resell this screen/PLM as a standalone controller sometime down the road. For the moment, the X10 messages are doing the job. Just makes my programs more complex and I have to keep track of the HU codes and their definitions on both the ISY and IES devices. Can you give an example of what you mean by cross linking. If its not overly complex, I may try that with a few of the more critical devices. Since we are sort of on topic here, do you have any recommendations for PoE power injectors ? Thanks. -X

I have 2 PLMs on my network. 1 for the ISY-99i and another connected to an IES Tabletop touchscreen. I'm looking for the best way to get the ISY to see status changes on my network when the IES touchscreen changes a device's status. Right now I have the IES send an X10 command when a Scene is activated and have traps in the ISY to act on those X10 commands but this seems like an ugly workaround. Is the a way to add the IES PLM to the ISY device tree or some way to link the PLMs so the status changes are seen by both? Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. -X

Yikes! If there are more than one or two cabinet doors, that will get very expensive. I think the IOLinc with a bunch of cheapo N/C reed switches (open in proximity of magnet) wired in parallel would be the way to go. One or more doors open, ramp up the lights. All doors closed, lights fast off. I love the TriggerLinc for remote door locations but it seems a bit excessive for this application. Either solution will work. -X