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https://www.lutron.com/en-US/Residential-Commercial-Solutions/Pages/Residential-Solutions/WholeHomeSolutions.aspx also - not listed on that page - is https://radiora3.lutron.com/us/en as i understand it, radiora3 and homeworks are sealer only - you can either take their courses to get certified or find a dealer that will sell to you (though probably not kosher with lutron) its a maze to understand the components that are compatible - lutron's radio (clear connect) as i understand it can be 2 types - a or x - different radio frequencies - but if you go with x, its like 2.4 ghz - from lutron "Type X and Type A are terms that are coupled with Lutron's Clear Connect Wireless protocol. Type A refers to devices that communicate using 431 to 437 MHz whereas Type X uses 2.4 to 2.48 GHz. RadioRA 3 utilizes both of these protocols in order to provide flexibility. The most important aspect is less the Type and frequency and more just remembering the key device rules. seeTouch, Maestro, Pico Wireless, Radio Powr Savr sensors, and wireless window treatments should all be placed within 30ft of the processor or a Repeater and Repeaters should be placed no further than 60ft apart from each other. Sunnata keypads, dimmers and switches utilize more of a mesh topology and should be placed using the following key rules: 1. all Sunnata devices within 75ft of the processor 2. at least 2 Sunnata devices within 25ft of the processor 3. at least 2 Sunnata devices within 25ft of other Sunnata devices" not sure if there is a polisy node yet for anything lutron but the specs are public https://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/040249.pdf until competing standards shake themselves out, its pick a hole and jump on it - lutron has some integration with other devices but my elk security system is not one of them - some stuff (like roomba) i don't need - but the beauty of polisy is the integration of most anything that someone can develop a node for (assuming its legit) and make those resources interact with other unrelated resources - with most 'solutions', you can only relate disparate resoutces the manufacturer had integrated with lutron is expensive but it works - from a dealer post - "The common complaint I see here is that iTs NoT aN oPeN sYsTeM - which to me just means that you have some limitations to work with. You have to use Lutron products and can’t sub in random switches or other controls. I like that the system as a whole is easy to setup, maintain, and forget about. It’s all self contained and when I sell my house, I don’t have to rip everything out because it’s held together with shoestrings and raspberry pi. "That all said - it’s expensive. I get a discount cause I’m a dealer and it’s still really expensive. But like another poster said, it’s a Cadillac where other systems are a little more back catalog go-cart"

scenes - 20 or more devices simultaneously fade up or down - ability to include the same resource in multiple scenes - ability to have different settings on different controllers in the same scene data integrity checking - crc - doesn't need more than that ack/nack - confirmation of packet delivery not sure its a plus, but its interesting - hop counts - wondered how they would prevent a broadcast type storm wrong thread i know - but the worst is yet another rf 'mesh' with no problem determination tools for rf or powerline isy kept insteon afloat - at least for probably 10 years - they had nothing like the isy for setup, management and programmatic control its more fun - and easier - to complain about the craplincs - i was all in on the x10 switchlincs - went full insteon on their advice - lived through all the deceptions - so the demise should not be a surprise to me sigh

what lutron system?

do we know if nokia is moving ahead with their devices? no mention on the nokia site do we know if the nokia devices use the insteon protocol unaltered? probably need at least something to provision a device as either a switch or dimmer

i'm thinking an analogy needs something in common for a comparison so i'll be blunt i understand the anger - when you start dropping the genitals of females in your posts - we get that you are mad you do not know that the ceo's plan was or was not perfectly executed - by your own admission - the fact that you can't imagine a plan might be to close the company is on you - or that external events caused its closure - or a myriad of other possibilities maybe be did a mark cuban - he might be on a bar stool in jrs next to cuban now i am surprised that you post about what successful companies are doing wrong - if bill gates only had your wisdom, he'd be righ

saying its ironic that you say you don't know what the plan was the next sentence - you declare the plan was a failure

with all due respect - you make a lot of assumptions about them - came close with this Nobody will every truly know what the overall intent was with this guy. But, his and the companies actions prove out their plan was a epic failure. first part is probably true - we don't know - but then you declare the plan that you don't know - a failure

what company would you say is 'run well'?

vhs won matter will win

richmond has one purpose - make money - they don't see insteon as anything but a tool to be used to make money - i'm not condemning that i am wondering if richmond brought in that new ceo or if the ceo brought in richmond for the cash infusion https://www.cepro.com/news/insteon_smartlabs_acquired_ceo_powerline_home_automation_richmond_capital/ they are on the esg train What We Believe Impact Investing. We believe that credit analysis is most effective when integrating fundamental quantitative and qualitative credit research with Environmental, Social and Governance analysis. As a value manager in the investment-grade fixed-income sector, in-depth research allows our talented investment team to make successful long-term investment decisions. for the 'fixed income' investors from their history Our firm is now 100% owned by 14 active investment, client service, and operations professionals. Decades ago, leadership took the firm private, believing they could closely align their interests with those of clients by becoming independent. Our growth and success since then is a direct result of that decision. http://www.richmondcap.com/ new ceo - $7.3 million infused - lights out - interesting

and i posted the first removed 2 brain tumors today - stopped and served lunch at the soup kitchen - rescued a drowning 2 year old and climbed a tree to help a stranded cat now to help you - read your posts objectively got to run - an old lady needs help crossing the road

obviously i do not stay abreast of insteon - portable usb adapter - sounds like the commands are repeated in rf and powerline "The single-band interface sends and receives radio frequency (RF) Insteon signals. If you are trying to control power line only devices you must have at least one Access Point or dual-band Insteon product for communication. For best Insteon network performance, be sure you have properly installed at least two dual-band Insteon products."

wonder if a device gets a rf command - if it repeats it on the powerline too

thanks mr b - i never dug into the protocol - wondered if it was more akin to udp or if it provided acks - had integrity checks - etc

wonder if all that developer stuff sharthome had is available online somewhere...

i posted trying to think through if a nokia dimmer could be provisioned manually as an insteon dimmer with that provisioning, the device would be seen by the isy as an insteon dimmer - what happens if a 'dim the light bar led indicator to 60%? - probably nothing - what happens if the isy sends a dim command to the dimmer? it would probably dim - and probably could be included in scenes as a dimmer i am looking for the flaw in my theory

my mind works differently - i think i stepped back too far - trying to understand the components - i don't want a nokia hub even if it would accept insteon devices - i would like to be able to replace a failed dimmer if necessary - trying to think through if a nokia dimmer could be provisioned manually as an insteon dimmer my guess is that smartlabs did not completely reinvent the wheel for nokia (it did not for best by broan) packet delivery - powerline and rf (same frequency) - that is not proof but does not exclude the possibility frame format - always whined about a powerline sniffer - wireshark - whatever - but there is someone that posted here on a sniffer for rf frequencies - super cool - be interesting to see that those nokia put out addressing scheme - i think someone said "The top external photo (Photo 1) shows an Insteon ID." hopefully hex command set - who knows but its probably the same - maybe enhanced data representation - ebcdic? - ok - probably safe to assume ascii but assumptions can make... my guess is that it would work - NOT that udi is endorsing that - just my guess no - it does not make a plm appear to know this - nor would it make other nokia devices work - my guess is that if someone has a working setup and has no replacement dimmers - or needs to add a dimmer or on/off switch - it would be welcome news i have no inside info but in my opinion, sharthome has always been a disreputable company - but while i am no fan of nokia, i don't have that same opinion of them - my guess is that they did their due diligence before jumping into bed with shartlabs - and the devices will be made available in my pointy head - my question was relevant

made a bad assumption - Supply Voltage 120 VAC +/- 10%, 60Hz single phase

they do now (sorry - still aggravates me that the first generation devices were not dual band) my point is - how does the hub send its signal on the powerline - the interface to the powerline - if it uses an external power supply signal from hub ---> through transformer (?) to powerline?

looks to use an external power supply - can it talk through that to the powerline?

i don't see anywhere to plug in a plm on the nokia hub

wifi supports qos be interesting to see what the constraint is on these 'routers' also be interesting to know how many people with lots of ha devices that don't have at least one access point - especially when they are streaming 4k video

i had the first alert with smoke bridge - liked that all of them announced the location dumped that for the first alert zcombo - which do not announce the location - so i have all the echo devices announce the location - and send me a text from the isy - and do some lighting stuff i do have elk so i will some day look into changing again

writing effective documentation is not a strength of most nerds - you need to put yourself in the position of your audience - and the audience here can be an experienced nerd or a casual user nerds generally skip steps - quite innocently - because its not easy to not know what you already know (worked for rumsfeld)