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Maybe its just me but your answer is still confusing as in one sentence you are say that there is a bug that was found and fixed but in another you say scenes being fix is another issue. The question is, the people like me who are having issues with scenes and v4.0 switchlincs is the new firmware 2.6.14 supposed to fix things? Simple yes or no. How about a maybe We hope so. We believe the new firmware will certainly be improved but it will, of course, require more testing to see if it fixes scenes with v4.x SwitchLincs. Rand

huddadudda, it is this bug they found, and fixed. They have also detected a bug with the Motion Sensor and are still working on that. Hopefully the scenes will also be fixed, but that is another issue. Rand

No, X10 is not used for scenes. It could be that Access Points absorb X10 signals. We are still hoping for 2.6.14 very soon which should solve almost all i2 problems. Rand

Michel believes they have located this bug! Thank you for your patience, Rand

Do you have a backup from when you were using 2.6.7? Are you saying they worked with 2.6.7? Rand

Kids are smart, they learn quickly. Rand

By the time I bought my third LampLinc I bought a PLC and wrote my own software to create links because of how awkward it was to press the set buttons Threw that all away as soon as I had the ISY for a day I have seen quite a few posts about the v4.x switches. Rand

I've been spending some time reorganizing and updating. The Wiki contains a great amount of information thanks to all the contributors. Hopefully articles will be easier to locate now. UDI Wiki There is still more to do. Let me know if you have any suggestions. Rand

That is always on the last row, correct? Then it is not a problem, it is a small glitch that reads one record past the end of the database. If it is in the middle of the database then it is probably a deleted link, it should begin with 22. The next new link will use that place. Rand

Correct. A query will only return the status of the load, button A. Keep in mind that KPL buttons can be set to non-toggle so they are always off or on. That doesn't mean the associated devices are always off or on. Mutually exclusive buttons turn one button on and all other buttons in the MX group off. This does not send off commands either. Then again, a ControLinc or a RemoteLinc do not keep track of button statuses either. And Motion sensors, I/OLincs, etc... Personally, I think it was a mistake to use backlights to indicate statuses on KPL buttons because it is so easy to be incorrect unless only one device is linked to each button. As MikeB stated the ISY keeps track of the last known press of any of these buttons. There should be a reason if it is forgetting. Power cycle or a bug. What version ISY and firmware are you using Doug? Perhaps it would be better to reverse the logic and have your son push a button when he comes home and have that reset every night at bedtime. Laundry room, garage, etc. could use motion sensors but bedrooms are off limits to timers here (and the kitchen and dining room, thanks to X-10). Then I am old school and just threatened a beating when the kids left lights on Rand

I'm glad you got it working. Rand

dss, would you try removing the KPL, quitting the Administration Console, restarting the Console and then adding back the changed KPL? Rand

While I have an aversion to InlineLincs (I prefer a switch with the load connected) I have found uses for a few of them, one in almost exactly the situation you have, but outside and so not as critical as an inside light. We are lucky enough here to have conduit here so pulling a wire doesn't usually involve destructing a wall. Did you have any luck removing the first fixture? I hate going to the attic. Rand

That is so much more concise than my answer! Rand

I think you have found a bug! I don't think there is any way to enable/disable folders and that option should not be displayed on the menu. There are other options on the folder menu that should not be there so you score +10 I always Backup ISY and Export Programs before I make changes. To enable/disable folders I use a Schedule. Uncheck all the options in On Days: All. Then the programs in the folder will never run. You should have a screen that displays this: Delete the line when you want the programs to run and add it back when the holidays are over. It doesn't matter what time is displayed, be sure no boxes are selected on the "On Days:" line. You should then have folder information like this: Folder Conditions for 'Test' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If On Never Time is 2:05:00PM Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. Be sure to Save your changes to test. Rand

Not as long as you don't exceed 300 watts. You can wire it just like the switch, except for the new neutral connection. Rand

All you need in box 2 is a hot and a neutral, it doesn't matter what circuit that switch is on because that switch won't be connected to the load. If you don't have ground fault breakers you could borrow the neutral from box 2 (via a traveler wire) for the switch in box 1. The only load on the neutral would be the power for the switch and not the fixtures. The proper way to install though would be to use an InlineLinc at the fixture. Then you could use the hot and neutral (via traveler wires) to power switch 1 with no load connected to it and your hots will all match the neutrals. Rand

Mr. Zellarman, you gave me something to do during the snowstorm this morning I played a bit with the Press/Release delays but that didn't seem to change how long the ISY is remembering a button press. Playing a bit it seems to take a bit more than one second to 'forget' a button press. If any other button is pressed during this period the first button pressed status is 'forgotten'. You could look for a press plus double press for 11, 22, 33, etc. or you could limit your first button press to 1 or 2 or 3 and the second press to any of the other 7 (4-0) buttons. Or you could ignore 11, 22, 33, etc. When I created programs for the 20s I found 21 activated the 10s program so I added Actions to end that. IR Tens If IR 'VCR 1 : 1' is Pressed Then Wait 8 seconds Run Program 'IR Tens' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') IR Twenty If IR 'VCR 1 : 2' is Pressed Then Wait 8 seconds Run Program 'IR Twenty' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Folder 'Tens' Folder Conditions for 'Tens' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If Program 'IR Tens' is True Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. 11 If IR 'VCR 1 : 1' is Double Pressed Then Set 'Family Room Swag Lamp' Fast On Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'IR Tens' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 12 If IR 'VCR 1 : 2' is Pressed Then Set 'Family Room Swag Lamp' Fast Off Run Program 'IR Twenty' (Else Path) Run Program 'IR Tens' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 13 If IR 'VCR 1 : 3' is Pressed Then Set 'Family Room Track Lights' Fast On Run Program 'IR Tens' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Folder 'Twenties' Folder Conditions for 'Twenties' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If Program 'IR Twenty' is True Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. 21 If IR 'VCR 1 : 1' is Pressed Then Set 'Family Room Lava Lamp' Fast On Run Program 'IR Tens' (Else Path) Run Program 'IR Twenty' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 22 If IR 'VCR 1 : 2' is Double Pressed Then Set 'Family Room Lava Lamp' Fast Off Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'IR Twenty' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Does that help? Rand

I suspect the hot is on the white and the load on the black from the 14/2. The 14/3 carries the hot to switch 2 and the travelers between the switches. An InlineLinc may be the only way. Wayne, there is also a dimming version of the InlineLinc. The price on the kit is quite reasonable and is, AFAIK, the only way to get a switch that has no local control. It would be great if Smarthome would sell the kits with multiple switches. The n-way circuits are the most likely to be missing a neutral. You will have to get in the box at the first fixture. You will have to rewire the 14/2 to carry hot and neutral to the switches. If you can pull the fixture it should not be very difficult. Many recessed fixtures are held up with springs, just pull them down. Rand

Can you check for continuity from the black 14/2 to the hot of the light fixture? Unfortunately it appears you do not have a neutral in either box Rand

Rand: so, you are saying that ON is considered > 90% by the ISY, but it doesn't keep running the program over and over because the status doesn't change? Correct On = 100%. I think that post was meant to say that On is not the same as >Off. A device could be on to a dimmed level and a status check will not return On. Rand

The program will only run when the Status changes. Rand

So it could be that you have reached the link limit. And the new PLM is no better. Sigh. If you remove from the link base a switch known to work and add the test switch I wonder if the new link would function reliably. That should prove the data base in the PLM is full. BTW, I'm working hard making new scenes; I'm up to 377 links. v.72 PLM. Rand

From what I see on the SimplehomeNet site I believe relays 3&4 would have to be configured before they broadcast Insteon commands based on changes. Rand

Gregg, no you can't remove part of a device. Why don't you connect the inputs to ground through, IIRC, a 1K resistor? Rand