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Thanks Lee. Glad to hear there are 99i's with blue LEDs and the 994i-like case. His ISY is working just fine using 99i firmware so I think we are in good shape.

Thanks Michell, It does say 99i on the bottom. The guy may have been mistaken when he said 993i. Did you ever make 99i's with blue LEDs and case like the 994i? My old 99i had green LEDs and a different looking case. Todd

My friend bought one off eBay and the guy said it was a 993i, but was same as a 99i. It has the same style box as my 994i with blue LEDs, not the older 99i with green LEDs. We updated with the 99i firmware. The PLM is V1.5. What is a 993i? A search returned no results. Any concerns with this setup?

As always Lee, many thanks! You have helped me many times and I very much appreciate that!

I'm leaving for work in the morning right around Sunrise -10 minutes, three exterior motion sensors detect me and turn on their corresponding lights as it is not yet sunrise - 10 minutes (program below). The lights are not turning off after two minutes. I'm wondering if the IF becomes false before the ISY counts down the 2 minutes and therefore the THEN stops running. Is this how the ISY "thinks" or do I have another problem? This worked just fine last year but maybe I'm at that threshold of the IF time period. The program works fine after sunset +10 minutes and a short period of time (> 2minutes) before Sunrise - 10 minutes. I waited this morning and same problem, so I manually turned off the lights with my phone. Below is one of my motion sensor programs. The kitchen KPL button is my lockout for not allowing the program to run the THEN path. I turn the KPL button on when I want the exterior light to not change state. If From Sunset + 10 minutes To Sunrise - 10 minutes (next day) And Control 'Exterior / Porch, Side Motion-Sensor' is switched On And Status 'House / 1st Floor / Kitchen Sink KPL / Kitchen Sink KPL - F' is Off Then Set Scene 'Exterior / Porch, Side Lights' On Wait 2 minutes Set Scene 'Exterior / Porch, Side Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Maybe I need to add a command in the ELSE to turn the light(s) off? Edit: A command in the ELSE to turn the lights off would turn them off if I turned on Kitchen Sink KPL -F, I don't want that as generally I am defeating this program to keep the lights on. So this won't work. Maybe a separate program that always turns off all exterior lights at sunrise? Not a bad idea for those rare occasions where Insteon fails to turn lights off.

I unplugged my PLM and ISY just before sunset. I have a number of programs that run from sunset to sunrise (next day) or from sunset + 5-10 minutes to sunrise (next day). They do not have the status line in the If section like Lee's program, just a From/To. I waited until about 20 minutes after sunset then plugged the PLM and ISY back in, hurray! the lights caught up! That's all I was looking for, a simple, ISY for dummies switch. I suppose if the power goes out at 2 AM then comes on at 3 AM, the lights won't catch up as it is already next day (If from sunset to sunrise (next day)). But nothing is really critical and if they don't turn on for the rest of the night then so be it. Off to figure where this "Missed Schedule Grace Period" setting is located, and try to understand what that means...

Hi Michel, I guess I find it unusual that you have to check the status of the device, as shown in Lee's program. Perhaps checking the status is not necessary? His program that worked also had a from/to unlike his first program that didn't work. My front porch is basically as Lee's working program is written except I don't check status in the IF section. It's a From/To program. I'll unplug my ISY and see if my from/to program will catch up on start up.

I'm hoping UDI will chime in. I understand Lee's program but it seems that most users would not figure that out (I didn't without Lee's help). I wonder if UDI would modify the Run At Startup to do just that, run any program that is checked as Run At Startup. If power goes out and a program or programs have Run At Startup checked, then upon restart, those programs test the IF statement in such a way that if it should be on then turn it on. Seems to me to be an easy way for most non-sophisticated users to catch-up after a power outage without coming here for help. More intuitive = more happy users.

Wow! That's an amazing program! Very nice!

After adding the Insteon I/OLinc, we continued to have erratic program behavior. After many hours of fussing around it occurred to me to use an Insteon controlled light instead of an X-10 light. Hallelujah! The program worked reliably ,well I did have some minor tweaks but no more weirdness. My advise, get rid of X-10 wherever and whenever you can. If you have weird behavior and X-10 is in the mix, try substituting Insteon devices and see if the problem goes away. We are now using the Insteon I/OLinc and an Insteon light switch. X-10 Powerflash removed from service. Switchlinc light switch moved to another location that will see more typical commands (not on/off every second). I really need to find a good explanation of how the ISY "thinks". I clearly do not understand when it tests IFs etc. Thanks again for your help!

I would never have figured that out. Thanks Lee!

I see it. Thanks Lee! You are the man!

Once again Lee falling on his sword for the rest of the ISY community. What a guy! I think I can just unplug my ISY and PLM just before Sunset, plug it back in some time after sunset and see if evening lights catch up. Going to my friends this evening so I can't test tonight, but will try tomorrow night (Sunday) and report back as well.

Thanks Lee and Brian. I just spoke to my friend. I suspect the flooding of x-10 on the powerline is the problem. He does have a booster/coupler. I have an I/O Linc. We will change out the X-10 powerflash with the I/O linc tonight, then write a program to flash the hall light. More X-10 going bye-bye. Thanks again! Todd

Ok so I have a program that says turn porch light on at sunset. Say the power goes out 30 minutes before sunset. Then 30 minutes after sunset the power comes on. If my program says turn porch light on at sunset and I have Run at Startup enabled, then the Isy when power is restored will test that program and turn the porch light on because the IF is true. Correct?

I don't see an obvious way to set a range of dates for a program to run. Is there any way to do this? For example, to set a range from December 1 to January 7.

Anyone?

I sold my 99i to a friend. I reset the 99i and loaded the latest firmware 3.2.6. Generally, I have been able to train him on how to make programs. However I cannot figure out one program that will run for a while then stop working a few hours later. This is the program: If X10 'B13/All Units Off (13)' is Received Or X10 'B13/All Lights On (5)' is Received (we added this late last night and it appeared to fix it but it quit working a while later) Then Wait 12 seconds Set 'Family Room / Front Entry Hall' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If we select "run then" then the program seems to work for a while, (half hour or so), after which it will not run. B13 is an X10 Powerflash PSC01 set to mode 2, which sends an all units off all light on repeatedly. It is connected to his house alarm. When the alarm is tripped it sends B13 All lights on all units off repeatedly. When someone enters the alarm code the power flash stops sending the on/off X10 code. The idea is the hall light flashes while the alarm is tripped (he has a deaf roommate) and then stays on for 12 seconds after the alarm code is entered (powerflash stops sending codes) then turns off. However the hall light will not turn off. Executing a "run then" then testing the program works, however some time later (a few hours?) the program stops working. ??? Powerflash is set to: "Output Mode 2: Engaged: Sends an X10 ALL LIGHTS ON / ALL UNITS OFF Command, continuously, called Flashing, (sets off X10 Siren after a few cycles) Disengaged: Flashing stops, All Wall Switches and Lamp Modules will remain ON (X10 Siren stops after a few seconds)" We added the "or" to the IF line and thought we had it fixed. I went home but low and behold, several hours later it would not run. I tried status and control settings to no avail. When I watch the programs summery screen, I see "running then" and I see start time reset every couple of seconds as the powerflash sends B on and off. When the If was only set to B off it would not run the program at all even though the last command from the powerflash should be a all units off. (Update, the command from the powerflash leaves lights on, but we have the or statement and it still fails to run). When we added the "or" line it ran. I thought we had it. But he called this morning and said it didn't run later that night or this morning. I don't understand why we can get it to work for a little while then it won't work any more. Any ideas?

Reading the user manual, it sounds like checking this option will make the ISY run the checked programs upon a restart. So if the power goes out, then comes back on, the ISY will run any checked program, and in effect test the If statements, what should have been turned on will be turned on, what should have turned off will turn off, etc. Am I understanding that correctly?

I just reset the old 99i. Programming is all gone. That's good. Was surprised that it retained the latest software 3.2.6 (I updated before taking it out of service). Also the X-10 module shows up in the Help About. Does this sound right? I expected a factory reset to revert it back to some version it was originally programmed with but then again i suppose it should only keep the latest version. I Thought it would loose the x-10 module but it didn't. If this is as it should be then I am ready to take it to my friends house and set it up there.

Received the 994i today. Swap went without a hitch. I kept my old PLM. My friend will be happy to get rid of his old x-10 controller. Hopefully his x-10 "weirdness" will be a thing of the past. ISY + Insteon = much improved reliability, not 100% but much better. Thanks for the advise and instructions.

Thanks Michel! I will do that once I have the 994i up and running and then reset the 99i. As always great service and great user support!

Thanks Michel. Thanks apostolakisl. So I'm looking for my X-10 auth code. I checked my email folder of license keys and didn't see anything from UDI. I also looked in my usual download folder for the ISY, and my other ISY folder but didn't see anything there. What would I have received to enable X-10? I'm generally very good about saving these things. Todd

Thanks to both of you. Sounds pretty easy. I'm going to let my friend have the X-10 module along with the 99i. I'm not sure what the web server section of the ISY is, so i guess I'm not using it. Use my computer to talk to it, otherwise it doesn't do anything else over the web (that I know of). If I use the new PLM then I suppose I need to wipe the old PLM, right? Most likely I'll just keep my PLM, no reason to make things more complicated than they have to be.

I own an ISY99i with the dual band PLM. It has the x-10 option. I have a friend that I am trying to get moved over to Insteon. He still has X-10 and an outdated unsupported controller. I have almost completely replaced my X-10 with Insteon. I think the best way to get him going is to sell him my system and I would buy the ISY994i with dual band PLM currently on sale at Smarthome. I don't need x-10 anymore but he does. Technically what do I need to do to do this? Should I keep my PLM and give him the new one? Where do I go to find out how to swap out a 99i for a 994i? I assume the x-10 option is linked to the serial number of my 99i. In other words in order for him to take over my x-10 option he needs my 99i right? The programs and settings are in the ISY, right?. How do I transfer the programs etc to the 994i? Is this like replacing an iPhone? I back up the ISY before removing the 99i, then reload the program to the 994i? Thanks for any advice and tips. I don't want to mess up my system.