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Great! Thanks!

What happens if I unplug Insteon lamp modules and/or other Insteon devices that I only use for holiday displays? Will the ISY "complain" about not being able to communicate with them? I've left some lamp modules and motion sensors enabled but would rather unplug them and remove the motion sensor batteries. If the ISY does complain, what is the best way to deal with modules that are only used during short periods of time?

I figured it out. I opened the event viewer, I could see repeated K16 commands. A Leviton 16400 controller was the problem. Turning off the breaker for that room stopped the x-10 K16 command. The ISY then completed it's house keeping and seems to be happy now. Moderators, feel free to delete this thread.

When I log on to the Admin Console, the main window opens then a 'System Busy" window opens. The ISY takes quite a while to get to 100% and when it does it starts over. Any idea what is going on? I disconnected and reconnected power to the ISY to no avail. Restarting the console just puts it back in this loop.

Thanks Lee!

Thanks again to everyone that replied! Happy to report I can now program the on level and ramp rate of the Icon dimmer switch via the ISY. I couldn't get it to work yesterday so I removed the switch, factory reset it again, then installed a Switchlinc in its place. Partly to confirm that I wasn't doing something wrong and partly because I wanted a programmed switch in that location. So I do not know what version was reported by the ISY yesterday. All of that was before my posts here, thus before software update. Since then I installed the latest software. I reinstalled the same Icon switch. The ISY reports it as v.39. So here is what's different from yesterday: 1. I upgraded the ISY from 2.8.16 to 3.1.17 2. I added the device in a slightly different manner. Yesterday I used Link Management, Start Linking, choose "Add devices found in links and remove existing links". I also used that for the Switchlinc which did work, so I'm not sure this was the wrong way to add a device. Today when adding the Icon switch I used Link Management, New Insteon/A10/X10 device, choose "Add devices found in links and remove existing links". Lee triggered my memory when he said use auto discover which was not an option in the first method I just described. That method seems to require that I manually enter the Insteon address. The first method automatically finds the address of the device. (Of course the device was put in to linking mode for both methods). So either 2.8.16 was the problem or the way I added the device was the problem. Don't you hate it when people change to variables at the same time? Should I make a note to myself to only add devices via New Insteon/A10/X10 device? Or is that method OK and most likely it was the software?

Good to know that they are programmable like the Switchlincs via the ISY. I did the remove, factory reset, and add back by auto discovery last night to no avail. I will try it again after I upgrade to 3.x.x. As suggested. Come to think of it, i upgraded from 2.8.10 to 2.8.16 not too long ago. I'm sure i could program the Icons in the past, maybe that upgrade messed something up. Keeping my fingers crossed. Will report back but may be a few days. Thanks for the replies!

I always seem to struggle when adding devices. But I'll save those questions for other threads. Q: Are the Icon switches 2876DB not able to accept programming from the ISY? Only Switchlincs 2476D's? I am unable to set the on level via the ISY (on level (applied locally) and have it respond accordingly when I turn the switch on (at the switch). With the Switchlincs, I can set the on level (applied locally) and ramp rate (applied locally) via the ISY and the switch will respond accordingly when I turn the switch on and off (at the switch). I'm not talking about scene control, I'm simply setting the device parameters by selecting the device under My Lighting. If this is a limitation of the Icon switches then I won't buy any more of them. I'm running ISY V2.8.16 Thanks.

Rand, thanks for responding. I wrote up my solution last night and then forgot to hit Submit. I'm running all over preparing for the party. It's back up and running. Sometimes I am so dense. LOL

I unplugged the PLM then plugged it back in. No luck. I unplugged my router and plugged it back in. No luck. I unplugged the ISY and plugged it back in. HURRAY! That fixed it. Nothing like a lock up right before a major party to cause me to panic big time. Whew!

Dang! I have a big Halloween party tomorrow and the ISY is not responding. It was working a few minutes ago then stopped after Firefox updated to 3.6.11. Have no idea what happened and no clue how to get going again. I don't get a login screen just ERROR Not found. ISY finder opens but does nothing. Any ideas?

hi Michel, Thanks! Do I need to install jumper 5? I haven't found any instructions as to what jumpers if any need to be installed. i am assuming jumper 5 needs to be installed. Todd

Michel, Sorry, I should be more careful regarding my conclusions. So would you say it's safe for me to download 2.8.3? I have a fairly recent PLM 2413S. I clicked on the first link you provided and i can see the addtional UI options for the 2420M. FANTASTIC! Thanks!

Occupancy sensing is not in the instructions that come with the MS. But LeeG describes how it works in this thread. His post is about half way down on page 1. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=5166

2.8.3 has been released but it appears to have a nasty bug. Good news though, it will have a "occupancy" setting for the 2420M. When enabled the 2420M will send an ON command whenever motion is detected irregardless of the timeout. For me this is exactly what I am looking for. As long as I am moving around outside the 2420M will send an ON command irregardless of it's timeout therefore continually resetting the ISY timer. Thank you UD!

Michel, I'm looking forward to you getting that nasty bug out of 2.8.3. Control of the 2420M motion sensor via the ISY is a feature set I have been looking forward to. I've spent many hours fussing with that darn 2420M. Many grumblings by me on this site, certainly not any fault of the ISY. I am thrilled that you're coming to the rescue for those of us looking for decent functionality out of the 2420M. Occupancy sensing will keep my outdoor lights on as I move around. LOVE IT! Todd

Kingwr, Thanks for the additional information. I did have the left pot set fully counterclockwise. Maybe my ISY is not resetting the timer? ISY timeout is 2 minutes, MS is 30 seconds. From what I understand I should get another ON command from the MS if it sees motion after it's original 30 second timeout, and if before the ISY 2 minute timeout, shouldn't this reset the ISY timer? After typing the above paragraph I think I know what may be happening. The MS keeps seeing motion before it's 30 second timeout thus resetting it's timer so I am not getting another ON to keep the ISY timer resetting. Perhaos te solution is to make the ISY timeout longer. I will continue to experiment. Thanks again for your help. Looking forward to 2.8.3.

Kingwr, I'm obviously missing something in your program. I know it's not a defective MS unless I have two defective sensors as I've tried this program with two different sensors, both V2.0. The MS doesn't seem to be resetting my timer, My timer runs for 2 minutes and then turns off even though I can see the LED in the MS flash as I move around. Sometimes the light is off and won't come back on even though the LED on the MS flashes. If I wait a while then move around the light will come on. Very erratic control. I've tried Status and Control. Maybe MS is not sending ON signals often enough to reset my counter. Jumper 3 and 4 are on. Pot is not fully counter clockwise but MS is in a dark place and it reports that DUSK/Dawn is ON. My Access point is about 5 feet away. I'm running 2.7.15 If Control 'Pond Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Set 'House / Basement / Den Sink D4' On Wait 2 minutes Set 'House / Basement / Den Sink D4' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

After several hours of experimentation, removing then resetting then relinking the MS a couple of times, I was becoming convinced that the counter-clockwise position is where I wanted it to be. With jumper 3 on and the pot at about 9 o'clock (7 o'clock being fully counter-clockwise) I think I am starting to get the darkness to where I want it to be. Still not 100% sure yet. Kingwr, Thanks for the reply. Do you have jumper 3 installed? As best I can tell the instructions imply that jumper 3 needs to be installed for the pot to work. Is that you understanding? i hate to take jumper 3 off for fear of messing up the sensor. I appreciate your help. I thought about using dusk to dawn condition in the ISY but was worried about using up the battery faster. Do you get good battery life with your set up? Doesn't it transmit RF 24 hours a day when it sees motion, rather than only at night? Sorry I'm still confused on what the fully counter clockwise position is doing. I like your setup. I was wondering how to make it leaves lights alone that are already on. Now I understand I chuckle when I visit Smarthome's web site and it states how easy Insteon is.

i found this thread http://forum.universal-devices.com/view ... ght=motion and it explains why I am not crazy, LOL. I can't wait for 2.8.3 which will supposedly give us more control of the 2420M via the ISY. After reading the above thread I have removed jumper 5. Apparently jumper 5 disables jumper 3 (night only mode) No wonder it continues to operate in the daytime). Jumper 3 is still installed and I continue to try and tweak the pot to get the desired result. At this time I have no idea if I'm making any progress. I currently have jumper 4 installed as well which tells the 2420M to not send an OFF. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. 1. I would appreciate any advice on these settings. I want the sensor to operate only dusk to dawn. I want it to be fairly dark. 2. I am having problems with my program as well. Rather than explain all the variations I have tried perhaps some of you would be kind enough to post your programs or some examples. I do not know if I should use IF STATUS ... is ON or IF CONTROL ... is ON. I have a wait statement in the program so I can adjust the ON time via the ISY instead of opening the sensor. I think this may be getting me in trouble. 3. I am currently controlling only x10 devices in my program. The strange thing is the first x10 device seems to get ignored. Device 2 thru x responds. Any ideas? 4. Is there a place where I can find example programs? I have more questions but I will not get greedy. Thanks, Todd

Thanks Lee. I check that out. You are a fountain of knowledge.

I changed my evening lighting scene so that one lamp will ramp up over 9 minutes. But it still ramps at the 1 minute rate. The lamp itself is set to 1 minute but in the scene it is set to 9 minutes. Maybe i don't understand? I thought a scene setting for a device would take precedence over the "default" settings for a device.

Ok, so Java updated and must have messed with the link in my start menu. i unoinned the isy admin console from the start menu then re-pinned it. Now it works. Maybe this will help someone else.

Ok, if I start the admin console by clicking start, all programs, ISY99i Series, 99i Administrative Console, it will run. So somehow my link in my start menu is bad. I need to figure out how I created that link. I'm so dense sometimes. LOL

Edit: When I click on the Administrative Console link in my start menu i get an error message that Java is unable to launch application (end edit). A new version of Java wanted to install so i let it. I also downloaded app updates via itunes but that shouldn't affect the program on my PC. I have no Idea why I'm getting this error message. Any ideas? I saved the link to my ISY in the start menu. Did something change? How did I get that link in my start menu? I don't remember. Sorry about being such a dummy.