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If the program is not enabled, the 'if' will not be evaluated unless called specifically. You do this from another program but then that is it. The 'if' gets evaluated just there. If the 'if' were true at the time, the then will run. There will be no additional evaluation of the 'if' from that point on unless called again from a program. This is necessary. If the 'if' were to get evaluated again, it would be the same as having the program enabled and then we would loose all the functionality of being able to force an evaluation at a time of our choosing. I have hundreds of programs that would fail if the ISY did not perform in this exact manner.

Michel, I can get to the admin console using safari if I change the java prefs to have applets run in their own process.

Success using this method to upgrade 2.7.13 to 2.7.14 on a Mac running 10.5.8 (Leopard) on the first try. I retain the unusual issue of the Java applet calling on 1.5 instead of 1.6 and so I cannot run the ISY admin console from inside a browser, only with the jnlp application. Also, version 1 t-stat adapters do not appear to updating their 'Fan State' with either a programmatic nor manual 'Query'

Jeff, I do not know that this will work as I have not had time to upgrade to the latest but... On 2.7.13 I could not get the upgrade to complete using any of the prescribed methods. What finally worked for me was to change Java prefs to have applets run in their own process, and then use Safari to open the admin console. When I was done I switched the Java prefs back to have applets run in the browser process, as that choice breaks lots of other stuff. Once installed, I use the JNLP exclusively to access my ISY.

My ISY draws about 1.5W. I measured this when I was building my UPS power supply for it. http://forum.universal-devices.com/view ... 4309#24309 Not sure how much the PLM pulls.

Downgraded to 2.7.12 and confirmed loss of t-stat query capability there as well. I have version 1 t-stat adapters, and near as I can tell, I have no way to query them through a program.

I have changed the t-stat 'null' to "Query" and saved. When I reload the programs, 'null' has retruned, and "Query" has been removed.

Thanks, I missed that. All programs changed to Heat or Cool setpoints instead of just setpoints. The t-stat has to be mode heat AND setpoint other than 58 to be true...

It appears that all my t-stat querys in programs have been changed to 'null' in one of these upgrades.

Ah, but if I run the applet in the browser's process I have no access to the admin console whatsoever. Remember, I am on a Mac running Leopard and for some reason the applet calls up Java 1.5 if it runs in the browser. The only way for me to get to the admin console through a browser is if I changed the setting so the applet runs in its own process and I use Safari

Damn you ryarber! I now have to completly reconsider my whole approach to my outdoor motion activated lighting. I thought I had this all figured out, and then you come along with that little jewel... Up til now I have been using programs to disable other programs when I manually activate the outdoor lights. This method of yours may be vastly better. I will have to give it great thought...

I was unable to use the ISY to replace a remotelinc until I moved both remotelincs to the parent "My Lighting" folder and grouped one of the devices. The option did not show up in the menu until I had taken those steps.

Wow! Hi IM, I had not even considered Power Factor. These things are crazy. I just tested 6 modules and am seeing a PF of .2 on all the standard appliance lincs and lamp lincs. I think that is the lowest PF I have ever seen on a consumer product. 6VA 1W PF .18 Interestingly, the new dual band lamp lincs are very different: 1VA 0W PF .8 So I will correct my earlier statement. I do see about 7VA not Watts. The power company does indeed charge residential customers for watts, not Volt-Amps. If you were in a commercial or industrial building that may be different though. IM is absolutely correct and I retract my statement about wishing they drew less power.

In my studies, the off state draw of most the devices I tested were in the area of 7W. I have found a few that are far less than that, but 7W is not unusual in my experience. I do wish they were less.

Thanks so much for being so thorough Michel, I have challenges getting to the admin console through the browser as you know, so I used the telnet method to change the CWT. This did not work for me. I changed it to 10000, then used the jnlp and upgrade stopped at 13% with an invalid length error. I changed it to 15000 and I made it to 15% before failure. Then I tried the HTTPS method through the browser, first changing my Java prefs so that applets will run in their own processes. Failure through FireFox, but success through Safari. Thanks. I still cannot get the admin console to work through a browser if the applet is allowed to run inside the browser with 2.7.13. I guess I am going to have to jump over to Snow Leopard one of these days...

T-Stat anomaly Program: Setback Failure-Bedroom Heat (contained in a folder that only allows running when I am "Away": If Status 'Bedroom T-Stat' is Mode Heat And Status 'Bedroom T-Stat' is not 58° (Setpoint) Then Send Notification to 'Illusion's Email' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Email received March 12, 2010 7:49:48 AM CST: Setback Failure-Bedr 'Bedroom T-Stat (11 92 8C 1)' Thermostat Mode set to Heat at 2010/03/12 7:49:40 AM. Relevant Log Entries: Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Status Query° Fri 2010/03/12 07:34:25 AM Program Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Status 69° Fri 2010/03/12 07:34:25 AM System Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Thermostat Mode Off Fri 2010/03/12 07:34:25 AM System Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Setpoint 0 Fri 2010/03/12 07:34:26 AM System Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Status Query° Fri 2010/03/12 07:49:38 AM Program Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Thermostat Mode Heat Fri 2010/03/12 07:49:39 AM System Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Setpoint 116 Fri 2010/03/12 07:49:40 AM System Log Bedroom / Bedroom T-Stat Humidity 23% Fri 2010/03/12 07:49:40 AM System Log Using Version 1 t-stat adapters. Why is the temp setpoint sometimes reported at double the actual value? I see this often in my log file for multiple t-stats. Why do I only rarely get an erroneous notification of setback failure? The t-stat was set properly, and I should not have received a notification at all in this case.

AnthemAVM, Did you use my steps to set up the port forwarding rule? If you used my step by step directions several posts back, this surely is the problem. My directions were to make the set up for the average user as easy as possible. The first qualification I put before the steps was: "If you have an isy with the default port of 443"

Changing the order in Java Preferences has no positive effect. Even disabling Java 1.5 and leaving 1.6 enabled will not help. Problem is confirmed on another Mac running 10.5.8 Leopard. Problem does not exist on Mac running Snow Leopard 10.6.X which of course only has Java SE 6 (1.6) available. Interestingly though, on a Leopard 10.5.8 machine if I change the Java settings so that applets will run in their own process instead of within the browser process, not only does it call up 1.6 and work, it no longer crushes the program details window. Now this is not an acceptable option for me as changing this setting breaks Java in my other necessary web pages. I do not need a fix on this, as I have been using the JNLP ever since you set it up last year. Just letting you know all the info I have in case there is a potential fix here for others.

Climate module: When manually changing the value of the polling interval, the save button does not activate. Have to use the up/down arrows to wake up the save button

Michel, Here is the console copy when the admin.jnlp is run: Java Web Start 1.6.0_17 Using JRE version 1.6.0_17-b04-248-9M3125 Java HotSpot 64-Bit Server VM User home directory = /Users/XXXX (Obscured) ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message m: print memory usage o: trigger logging p: reload proxy configuration q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack 0-5: set trace level to ----------------------------------------------------

Michel, Yes that works fine. That is how I have been accessing my ISY since the update.

I Think Mac uses a slightly different naming convention. I have Java SE6 which I show as 1.6.0_17, 64-bit listed at the top, I have J2SE 5.0 under it which I show as 1.5.0_22, 32-bit I do not believe I am missing any updates.

Michel, Using my local address. http://my.isy.lan.ip/admin Console Shows: Java Plug-in 1.5.0 Using JRE version 1.5.0_22 Java HotSpot Client VM User home directory = /Users/XXXX (obscured) ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging p: reload proxy configuration q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to ---------------------------------------------------- java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:676) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:173) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:317) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:145) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(AppletClassLoader.java:659) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:723) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:1873) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:652) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:326) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613) And from https://my.dyndns.net/admin Console shows: Java Plug-in 1.5.0 Using JRE version 1.5.0_22 Java HotSpot Client VM User home directory = /Users/XXXX (obscured) ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging p: reload proxy configuration q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to ---------------------------------------------------- java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:676) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:173) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:317) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:145) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(AppletClassLoader.java:659) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.java:723) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer.java:1873) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java:652) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:326) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613) P.S. Installing a new certificate worked fine from Windows BTW. Just could not do it from my Mac

From the Mac Front. I do not appear to be able to access the admin console from within a web browser. I can adjust devices and stuff from the simple web interface, but when I select "Administrative Console" the admin console never starts. In a likely related issue, I am unable to install a new certificate as I cannot get the certificates manager to access my ISY ISY 99i/ir pro leopard 10.5.8 Firefox and Safari

What Michel is saying here is that now an older switchlinc can be replaced by a newer switchlinc with sense within the ISY. as these are actually two different module types, prior to this release this would not have been possible. huddadudda is actually physically changing out switches to change firmware, but now with the new ISY firmware the ISY's Replace function can be used to limit the massive amount of reprogramming that would otherwise need to be done.