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Thank you so much! So, as long as the system has JAVA installed, then the above should work, regardless of windows versions most likely; as it bypasses browsers and their various security things and/or limitations. When I looked at the launcher in the past or on my Mac, I only got the regular " user " screen. ... Fingers crossed, this ends my search for something that is compatible in this day and age. Many thanks.

How does one get into the admin console (add remove stuff, edit program, etc) using the launcher? It seems to only give me the generic page to turn items on/off.

In the midst of my failing PLM issue and its replacement attempt; I have found myself not quite able to trust an old win 7 laptop + java 8 + pale moon browser ... in that certain things the progress bar don't complete, and then I can't trust whether it did what it had to do. Like restore PLM quits at 7%. Browser sometimes wants to flash away or goes idle? Which prompted me to look if I could perhaps use another old system with Internet Explorer and maybe Java 7 or such; to rule out a software issue. The problem is that there seems to be a very narrow window between an older system that has a functional browser ... I am seeing a lot of white pages when I try to get on the landing page of my ISY or JAVA 2+ required. Even when I have JAVA 7 installed already. Any recommendations? For a good working combo? Maybe a sleek virtual machine combo, so that I could maybe run it on a recent Windows or Mac laptop?

Yes, that would mean transitioning to PolyISY. I had looked at the system when the announcement went out, but it seemed overkill and had not considered that USB dongle. I ordered a USB dongle just in case - considering all issues with SmartHome hardware availability ... as I am trying to figure out a plan B or C ... should this daughter board swap from USB PLM to Serial PLM not work out. ... and, I really do understand I have to be cautious / considerate about posting about my technical issue in multiple threads.

Ticket created. Starting again with 0 activity. Reset PLM. Properly detected. The restore PLM progress bar actually cuts out at 7%

Thanks for the help. I missed part of the first restore ... (multi-tasking) Eventually it does stop writing to all the things, and the admin console just sits there. I have had them populated all green / properly. But then through the phone or other thing, commands don't respond. I should have a recent ISY backup. Yes. Will look into resetting the PLM and trying again. And, yes, I probably should write UDI ...

How does one transition from ISY 994 + Serial PLM to the USB Dongle?? My Serial PLM was failing, ordered a USB PLM, just did the serial card swap and restore modem .... but ISY is not happy ... ( nothing works, modem detected, table populated with 104 entries, but cannot communicate with anything, always trying to update, ... )

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... completely demoralizing ... So, while I was waiting on the new USB PLM to arrive, I plugged the old serial PLM back in, without its top cover on; and a few hours later, it was running again. Good response to commands. Timers fine. Cool. Until a few days ago. Unplugged everything. Carefully did the transfer of the serial daughter board to the new unit. Powered up PLM. Powered up ISY. Admin console Whole bunch of can't find ... and writing ... Replace PLM command. Completed ... and nothing. Unplugged everything again, plugged in PLM, plugged in ISY I have now for several hours tried to do everything, new ethernet cables, moved outlets, ... ISY says PLM connected. The PLM links table has 104 lines ... Every single time I log off and on, it wants to do a bunch of writing. And everything remains RED ! Thoughts? Troubleshooting ideas? Options? Hoping there somebody who can help, because this situation ... is quite stressful. A bunch of 220V & 110V only works through our Insteon modules.

My ISY has been stable - knock on wood. I wish the same could be said of the PLMs. I don't hink polisy offers anything that I need at this time. That said ... If it could eliminate the insteon PLM ... as in, an all in one device, as reliable as an ISY, and no more PLM stress, I would order one rightaway.

My line of thought was that they probably have x amount of outstanding orders for items a b c d e f ... etc across their range and that nothing may ship, unless it reaches a certain quantity and fills up a container or whole batch of them. So, instead, wait on making what you have in stock, re-queue , prioritize making the critical items like PLMs and get that batch on a plane.

Thank you. I will proceed and order a USB based model. Fingers crossed. I just talked to SmartHome phone support briefly. Was told that: - the 2413S is out of stock due to supply chain issues - it has not been discontinued - ETA is several months at a minimum, as they have had zero news ... so, some time next year it should be back. I asked for an escalation of my concern / call, regarding the critical nature of the PLM. Are people supposed to rip everything out that does not have a physical switch control and rewire for six months? Probably won't change anything. But, I want to give it a shot and make somebody past level 1 aware what this actually means for their customers ... and they ought to do something more than say wait 3-6 months. Maybe hit the brakes on some other product runs, do some limited runs and ship them out before you fill up a cargo container ... to help your stranded customers.

Still dead in the water. Read many threads. Had hope after another power cycle showing devices without ! ... but ISY just redeclared them all ! again. Don't know now if ordering a USB model and doing a board swap will work. ... SH not having new units for sale really blows ... while it is so critical. ?

Thank you for the responses and help. Admin console says " your system is in safe mode " ... if the problem persists, in all likelihood the PLM is defective. I have done a couple power cycles and tried different outlet, have not been able to get past it. Any actions that are programmed no longer execute. The green light on the PLM is on. Cable between the two properly seats. My unit is 2413S V2.2 1635 ... and a few years old, not sure. Quick Update 1... after having everything unplugged for an hour, seems isy now sees the plm ... cannot communitcate with anything, but it is system busy ... writing to everything ... curious where this will lead. But PLM was now detected and connected. 2. I let ISY do its thing, everything turns up with a red exclamation, nothing has a status or responds ... PLM is detected and connected ( will not try to find more troubleshooting info ) 3. ... going down the rabbit hole, still all red exclamation points, plm detected ... get as far as testing scenes, tests fail. Not sure where to go next ... While this may fix itself - temporarily ? - I guess I better order a PLM with USB, to have a backup handy.

My most recent 2413S PLM may have died. Green light, but no comms. ISY says it may be dead, tried the reboot of both and moving outlets. Have had some response issues recently and today nothing works ... so another PLM bit the dust? No 2413S available from SmartHome. Can I confidently order a 2413U and convert it to ethernet (for my ISY) with a daughter card swap? Or? I have been trying to read up on SmartHome discontinuing the extremely short lived and failure prone 2413s without having the replacement on the market ( 2234? ) ... PolyISO and USB confuse me. I would not mind to attempt a cap repair, once we're up and running again ... Don't really want to oder an insteon hub either, but maybe they place nice with our ISY now?

Trying once again to do a few things with my insteon setup. Downloaded the latest Java RE 8 221 Installed Still nothing. Cannot open Java Control panel. Always blocked prompt on the right hand side of display.

" In the Java Control Panel, Security tab, you might add your ISY's IP address to the "Exception Site List". I'm not sure that will help, but I've got mine in the list and I'm having no problems. " Good to hear it can actually work, my system is not there yet ... I cannot even get to the Java Control Panel. When I go into Preferences, click Java, click " Reopen the java control panel " I get a popup on the right hand side " Java File Protection " " Launch of Java Control Panel has been blocked " Only option is close. I have not found a way to bypass or resolve that. Tried to see what java had to say, did the google thing, ... I have spent a considerable amount troubleshooting and searching online, at times when I have tried to get into the console, each time given up ... hence me finally coming here. (as I do need to do some housekeeping and troubleshoot why my water heaters are running in the daytime (when we have triple the electric cost)

It seems I have been ISY purgatory for a long time, every time I try something Java is blocked. I recall the launcher working last year, but then I my systems are now running OSX mojave and the launcher does not work any more. Java proposed I get version 8 211 ... latest they have ... nothing. Read an article somewhere that v 12 SE is compatible with mojave ... nothing. Switched to an up to date windows 10 computer with Firefox ... nothing. How does on get the console these days?

Oh cool! Didn't know, an assigned keyword or keyword set will hopefully be the best of both worlds!

Seeking a bit of guidance on the naming of devices and scenes in the ISY system, to have the easiest transition with voice control. Just went through a faulty PLM replacement. Got the Echo dot. Eager to try Alexa with my insteon stuff (and stop depending on that long html browser list of on/off buttons) My plug devices were previously all named L1 name L2 Name AL 1 name AL2 Name Which not too long ago I tweaked to Lamp Living (L1) Christmas Tree (L2) ... Lamp post (AL1) Malibu lights (AL2) Pond pump (AL3) ... Some hardwired stuff Water Heater MBA BAS Lights ... Which reminded me which labeled insteon device something was plugged into, as some have been seasonal outside / inside . The scenes are pretty simple Front Landscape SC Flood Lights SC Christmas SC But I'm guessing I better drop the (nn) and the SC stuff... What else might be handy to sort my stuff logically? Right now it all is still a long list in ISY

Most exciting to see that many of us may soon enjoy voice control of our connected devices. With respect to the current state of development, I do hope there is an end goal / ability to shorten " Alexa, tell Izzy to ... " Into a much simpler and faster "Alexa, turn on (the) pool pump" or a more crude language "Alexa, pool pump on/off" because I only have one ISY and any home automation commands would be inherent about the ISY controler. The whole "tell Izzy to" is a start but in the end is just not elegant and will interfere with adoption.

Thanks. This system has actually one of the faster SSDs so it shouldn't take much. Dumping the trash is a matter of seconds. Plus this particular system (new baby) hardly has done any Java duty, so I don't see why it would have a lot to empty either. I've tried changing the preferences several times, gave it some time, even rebooted, tried again. I can't resize the cache nor empty it. I think it is bugs in the preference panel. Haven't researched it yet [ way too many other issues of all kinds to sort out ] I filed a bug report with Oracle on the matter. For one thing there is no reason the cache should be by default maxed out at 32000+ MB. It did however solve the sluggish UD interface and give me access inside programs. I'm familiar with Onyx. Hadn't thought of it in relation to this issue.

Thank you both for the quick responses. Split up the program into two parts as indicated and will evaluate. Knock on wood. I'll then proceed with the other bits. (still have to exchange the one bum sensor too)

I'm back. Hopefully I can get to the bottom of this. The lights are on again this morning??? Seems to happen about once a week that the program/ISY/??? gets hung up in the morning. 7:30 AM lights are on (still on at 8:15 at the time of this posting) Sunrise is 6:46 sunset is 17:33 Program summary: Motion Enabled ON Activity IDLE Status FALSE Last Run WED 2014/02/19 07:45 Last Finish WED 2014/02/19 07:45 Next Scheduled Run WED 2014/02/19 17:03 ID 000A Program copy below: Note - I haven't fiddled with it yet to keep it running longer, accept additional motion input or run it by dusk/dawn. If From Sunset - 30 minutes To Sunrise (next day) And ( Control 'M1-Sensor' is switched On Or Control 'M2-Sensor' is switched On Or Control 'M3-Sensor' is switched On ) Then Set Scene 'Motion Response' On Wait 2 minutes Set Scene 'Motion Response' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') So two questions: Why does the program run past 'sunrise'? Why does it not shut off the last detected run? There is other controller for the test setup (no remotes, buttons, iPad/iPhone software) It is still the test setup with two lamplincs and two lamps. Only controlled by the program above. Which controls the motion scene, that only has two standing lamps in it.

Well spoke too soon. UD environment is not responsive. Very very slow to react. Nothing to see when I click on programs. Looked at Java preferences, tried to empty the caches, ... gets hung up when you try to do that. Tried to downsize the cache size from 32GB? (WTH ?!) ... gets hung up on that too. OS X 10.9.1 with Java 7 update 51. Fully up to date. Oh what a great start of the morning. Not.