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“Are you saying this is where nothing shows in "my device"? Correct. I have actually been in ISY user in two households for over 10 years now. I moved out of my last place and started a whole new system from scratch with the EISY. I thought I was an expert. I guess not.

Here ya go…

I can see my EISY in the UD Mobile app. I can see my EISY in my.isy.io. Its got the green dot next to it. It is set as the preferred isy (UDID or whatever). But when I try to add devices, none appear in the pull down list. Thoughts?

I have an ISY system at my home that works fantastic. But at my office, I want to try out an Indigo install. I don’t need an entire ISY. Unfortunately, I am in the WGA and currently on strike (!!!), and cannot get into my offices. With the downtime, I want to experiment with an Indigo at home. Can I just install Indigo on my computer, and then plug a second PLM into that computer, and then run that on top of my existing ISY system?

Thank you for the tip. Oops. As said, thank you for the tip. Thanks for the feedback. Can you cut and paste a sample of your base NR so I can add it back to the original?

Thanks for the feedback. Can you cut and paste a sample of your base NR so I can add it back to the original?

That's what so great about that product. I believe it REPLACES all your hubs -- so you don't need a separate hub for every individual company's devices. Nor do you need a separate app. The app for that hub will control all your different devices. https://www.smartthings.com/products And apparently it's also a mesh network so you can plug a few in to give you better wifi in the house. I'm personally not ready to switch over to something to replace what I already have. But I might at some point because all these various bridges are getting unwieldy.

Well, I don't know, hence my question. A year ago, that seemed the best way. But there is this new product out there that I'm not familiar with that possibly might be a better way...and I thought maybe someone on this thread might have enough familiarity with it to weigh in.

Question for anyone reading this. Anyone have experience with a SmartThings hub? Is that something that is another solution to Hue/ISY integration?

This has all been a while since I wrote those instructions but vaguely, I betcha it's this: at one point, it seems you could specify your own Hue ID. And make it sensical. By the time I came along, you had to go with the default Hue ID...which was a long string of characters with no meaning.

Off the top of my head, are you sure you are saving TWICE? It's an easy step to miss. Also, along those lines, are you 100% sure you are following all the instructions? Finally, I would suggest rebooting everything. That cleared up a problem for me. Also this... Just so you know, if you are referring to an online Hue login ID, I have never signed up for that...so that ID, or anything about it, wouldn't factor into my instructions.

When you say "wouldn't work" do you mean you would push the test button and nothing would happen? Or that the test button was grayed out and you couldn't push it at all?

Thank you oberkc. Did you have any hiccups in the instructions? Anything that could have been clearer?

Since you both had the same issue, I want to update the instructions to clarify this point. But, not really fully having my brain around it all, I am unsure exactly what went wrong where. Can you highlight the passage of my instructions where things went south - as well as what words would have been helpful to clarify? There are a lot of places where I invoke "/api" so I'm just not sure which ones you guess are talking about UPDATE: I think I got it - can you verify this is what you were talking about? The existing instructions said this: But I will update them to say this:

Yes, "peter". No idea why. Did you ever get it working?

Hmmm...I wrote a response to your post builderb, but now I don't see it. I'll repost. Thank you. As for groups, I have no idea how to do that outside of the iOS Hue app, which has it's own walk through. But the app doesn't call them groups, they call groups "rooms" - if I understand it correctly. I am unfamiliar with that command. Can you explain how it works and give an example? Likewise, I'm unfamiliar with what "effects" are or do. Can you give some background and some examples and I can add them to the top?

Thank you. I fear it is an endless endeavor...but I am desperately trying to fight the glut of small box/AC plugs that are slowing filling up my entire life...

Okay, some I'm getting conflicting information here. Just to clarify: I ASKED: "once 5.0 comes out, it opens the door for software-only 'plug-ins' that would allow a kind of native device usage of Hue bulbs. Do you know anything about that?" LARRYLLIX: "That all happened about six months ago." Except, as far as I understand things, that did NOT happen six months ago...as the Polyglot solution (which is what I believe larryllix is talking about) is not a software-only solution. I pointed that out, to which larryllix post a screen-shot of something called a NodeLink plug-in, which does NOT work with a Hue bulb but DOES appear to be software only -- with the implication (I think?) that there is a software-only solution...for something? Maybe the Hue? I'm not sure. Except when I googled NodeLink, it appears to require a Raspberry Pi, so is not a software only solution after all. At which point mwester chimed in with the (correct?) answer to my original question: MWESTER: "there is no software-only solution that does not require an outboard processor for the ISY -- basically because it is not possible to write software add-ons that run on the ISY itself" That's pretty clear. So mwester, may I ask you...is this the way it is going to be from here on out? I was under the impression at some point, ISY would be allowing it to be possible to write plug-ins to run inside the ISY itself. But are you saying that is not on any publicly-available roadmap at the moment? Not allowing a Hue plug-in does not appear to be a technical limitation but a choice.

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. Are yiu saying there is a solution where I can control Hue bulbs natively with my existing ISY and just software? I am aware of the network resource method (well, duh

Yeah, def not ready to install a beta/alpha. Just don't have the bandwidth to manage. But it is my understanding that, once 5.0 comes out, it opens the door for software-only "plug-ins" that would allow a kind of native device usage of Hue bulbs. Do you know anything about that?

Well, that's the problem right there. There are shelves full of documentation -- probably thousands and thousands of pages? Spread out over several different topics, in several different books -- most of which contains information that isn't necessary. I imagine the entire process could be distilled down to 20-40 (or less) comprehensively explained steps in one place, getting right to the point. Does that guide exist anywhere? If so, I haven't been able to find it. But if you have some other links, I would be happy to check them out. People here aren't looking for "Polyglot for Dummies" so much as "Hue on ISY (via Polyglot) for Dummies".

Thank you for the post, Dan. I took a look at those instructions. Not remotely doable for someone of my, um...shall we say, level of expertise (or lack thereof). I only have a vague inkling of what a Raspberry Pi is (that was after having to figure out that "RPi" was a reference to that). Much less how to hook one up to my computer (assuming I even have to do that, I don't know). I also have no idea what I'm supposed to download from the github page. Then the instructions say things like I'm supposed to enter this: apt-get install python-git python-pip python3-pip libjpeg-dev ...somwhere. I guess. But if that's even right, I have no idea where I would enter that. The list goes on. There are probably about 15 steps that someone who was familiar with this world could do in about 5 minutes. For me, with those instructions, it would probably take me 20 hours to figure out just what they were talking about. When I said a "Guide for Dummies"...I wasn't kidding.

Absolutely Michel. Glad to give back. Though, I understand this may all be moot once 5.0 comes out?

Will do. Could you give me a list of other methods, so I can include that in there?

A Raspberry Pi-Polygut for Dummies would be much appreciated...if anyone wants to collaborate on that. For the uninitiated, I THINK that would allows Hue devices to just appear in the ISY as standard devices...which would be WAYYYY easier. But who the hell knows how to do that?!