mfranzel

Sorry for the delay in reply. I have been out of town... Anyways, this worked great! The reason I programmed them into groups right from the keypads themselves is because that is what the directions that came with them said to do... I forgot the part where I have an ISY to do it all for me. Thanks so much!

Nevermind... Me being stupid... I was not using the correct URL to access the ISY.

I have the latest firmware of 3.3.10 but when I try to add a KPL (2488D), it adds as an unsupported device. Why is this happening now? Also, I went to the About screen, it shows me that the firmware is Insteon_UD994 3.3.10 but my UI is Insteon_UD94 3.2.6. My product is an ISY994i. Is there something wrong here?

Okay, the clear this up... *My inwall KPL controlling a single outlet on a dual outlet wall plug is a "KeypadLinc - INSTEON 6-Button Scene Control Keypad with On/Off Switch (Dual-Band)" SKU 2487S. *My bedside KPL is just a bedside controller. It is "KeypadLinc Dimmer - INSTEON 6-Button Scene Control Keypad with Dimmer" SKU 2486DWH6. For the table top enclosures, you must use the non dual band switches as they do not fit inside otherwise. *My ApplianceLinc that is controlling a lamp in my bedroom is INSTEON Plug-in Appliance On/Off Module, 3-Pin SKU 2456S3. For whatever reason, this product only comes as non dual band. I replaced the CFLs in my 2 lamps with bright white LEDs and everything is fine in the bedroom... until we get down to the rest of the house. Just for the record, all of my KeypadLincs and SwitchLincs are dualband On/Off Switches. 2487S and 2477S. Now going to the rest of the house... that is when stings stop working again or have difficulty. When I installed all of the new switches and KPLs around the place and linked them into the ISY, everything seemed to be going well, but then every day there seems to be another issue... first the issue with the bedroom and now this... For an unknown reason, the SwitchLincs in the kitchen, laundry room. and the 4 way (3 switches) I have for a set of stairs, do not want to cooperate. Again, all are dualband. The kitchen SwitchLinc seems to work 100% of the time when its load is OFF, again, with its load being 3 GU24 CFL bulbs. However, since it is dualband, I would think there would be absolutely no communication issues, correct? Second, the laundry room SwitchLinc refuses to connect to the system with its load being one GU24 CFL. Then the stairs come into play. It is a 4 way setup... one switch at the top, one in the middle and one at the bottom by the front door. I was told, get them linked to the system, make a scene where they are all controllers and they will work fine. They did for about a day or two. Now, the only switch that controls the load is the switch at the bottom even though the programming in the ISY is fine. So from what I picking up... is there just a really big communication issue? But even so, since 99.8% of my devices are dualband, shouldn't everything still be working?? Thanks again to EVERYONE for your help... I am COMPLETELY new at this and really appreciate the help and the knowledge I am learning!

What is against code? Having a switch control an outlet or having the KPL control the outlet? That is how it was when I moved here... If it matters, it is a single outlet with two places to plug in things but only ONE of the plugs is controlled by the switch. How can this be against code if this is how the place as built? Anyways, you are correct they are GU24 bulbs, I couldn't remember the type. And you are also correct, there are NO other bulbs on the market that use the GU24 base besides CFLs. But that is inly ceiling lights... obviously not lamps I buy at the store. I will try using LED bulbs in the lamps and see what happens. If that doesn't work, I will try different lamps and if that doesn't work then I will purchase a filterlinc.

It is actually only controlling a single outlet which has 2 lamps from Bed Bath and Beyond plugged in. I am going to try and get to the store today and see if another brand of CFLs or LED bulbs will do the trick...

So I would put the Leviton device inside EACH electrical box of every switch? First, that is going to be horribly expensive and second, my electrical boxes are packed so tightly, there is no way of getting them in there. I ran the test you asked for multiple times and every result says "Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0" and the ApplianceLinc turns on and off perfectly. I think it is the bulbs in my bedside lamps... Would LEDs be a bad choice?

well DAMN. I never thought CFLs could cause this. I took the CFLs out of the lamps and turned on the load from the KPL then tried turning on and off the ApplianceLinc and had no trouble! I am a bit stuck though... all of the light fixtures in my home (not lamps, only built in lights) use a new type of bulb that is CFL only... it has a special "twist lock" base and they cannot be replaced with any other bulb besides these ones. My lamps all use regular CFLs. However, I do not seem to have this problem anywhere else. What do I do about this? What about LED bulbs for the lamps? I like using CFLs because I can get ones that put off a white light instead of yellow.

ALL of the light bulbs in my home are CFLs... All the same brand, all purchased at the same time. I do not understand why ONE load would be causing the issue. Could it be the switch itself?

The KPL in the wall is an On/Off and it controls a switched outlet... Aka my nightstand lamps. And yes, you are correct. When the load is on (the lamps), signals do not get to the appliancelinc but when the load is off, the appliancelinc works perfectly.

That worked great! Thank you! But now, my problems continue... In the bedroom, I have a KPL (non-dualband) on my nightstand in a tabletop enclosure and an appliancelinc, also not dualband. When the load to the KPL in the wall is ON, it causes the non dualband devices in my bedroom to not communicate. Why would it be doing this? Is it faulty or is it the way I hooked it up?

Sorry, I did not explain that very well. Basically, I have a scene on my KPL called "Bath & Closet". When I push it, it toggles the bathroom light, bathroom fan, and closet light on or off. When I use the button on the KPL to turn the scene on or off, the light goes on or off with it. But, if I go into the closet and use the closet lightswitch to turn the light on, the KPL light doesn't light up. I don't want to push the closet light button and have the bathroom lights go on as well. I just want to know from the KPL by my bedside if a light is on that I forgot to turn off. As for the KPL that is blinking and beeping, it stopped doing that... not when any light goes on or off be it from a command from the ISY or manually using the switch, the KPL flickers.

Hello, I have one set of 4-way switches (3 switches) and one set of 3-way switches (2 switches). They are all Dual-band Switchlincs. I am a bit confused on how to add them to the ISY. Do I add all three (or two) switches or do I only add one? On the 4-way and 3-way, I "grouped" them together so when I turn the switch on the top of the stairs shows the same "status" as the switch at the bottom. What I am confused about is adding them to the ISY. Do I add all 3 and 2 switches to the ISY or only one in the group? Thanks!

So I created a scene, added my desired switches as responders and the KPL button as a controller. When I use the button on the controller to turn the scene on or off, the light on the KPL goes with the scene, but if I manually turn a light on my going to its switch, the light for the scene on the KPL doesn't turn on. Why is this? Also, one of the responders is the load on another keypad link and when I turn the load on or off, that keypad link blinks and beeps at me...

Upgrading worked and I was able to add the KPL perfectly. Thank you so much for your help!!

Okay so I took a third KPL that I have not tried anythign with, followed your intructions and it connected fine. I think this is because I did not try to connect it with the SET button before. So I will try to reset the other KPLs to factory defaults and see what happens. Here is the thing... it registers as "Unsupported Device:2.44" and only gives me access as if it were a regular switch. It has on and off buttons and I can only control button A (load).

And the PLM is plugged right into the wall.

Yes, I have access points on different circuits as well as many dual band devices. Right now, the KPL and the PLM are even in the same room. I also tried another one that is inside a tabletop enclosure and that doesn't work either.

Correct... no message of any kind... Below, please find the log. I have also restarted the ISY and PLM just to make sure it wasn't a communication issue. Thanks! Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:49 AM : ---- Initializing the linked devices ---- Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:49 AM : ---- All Linked Devices are now initialized ---- Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:50 AM : ---- Add remaining devices ---- Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:50 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 16 ED 0F 0D 00 Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:50 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.16.ED 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:59 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 16 ED 0F 0D 00 Fri 01/25/2013 12:08:59 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.16.ED 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Fri 01/25/2013 12:09:07 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 16 ED 0F 0D 00 Fri 01/25/2013 12:09:08 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.16.ED 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Fri 01/25/2013 12:09:11 AM : ---- All Remaining Device Added ---- Fri 01/25/2013 12:09:12 AM : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices

Thanks for your quick reply! I deleted the KPL from the ISY and followed your instructions to add it correctly. However, after I add the KPL's info, I get the dialog box saying it is configuring, but then it simply disappears and the controller is not added. I also tried with a different KPL and the same thing happened. Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with my programming?

Hello all, I am new to the world of INSTEON and the ISY. I was hoping to get some much needed help. I have the ISY994i and have been able to program various Switchlincs and appliancelincs just fine with the ISY. However, I am having extreme difficulty adding KeypadLincs. I was under the assumption I could use the ISY to program the various buttons on the KPL such as a "nightime" button to turn off all bedroom lights when I go to bed. The biggest problem I am having is linking the KPLs to the ISY. The first thing I tried was putting the ISY into linking mode and pressing and holding the SET button on the KPL, but it doesn't link. So then I tried doing it manually by telling the ISY I wanted to link an 8-Scene KPL and manually typing in the address of the KPL. I then press and hold the SET button on the KPL and it seems to link. I then have a list of devices like A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H. When I click on one of the devices, it only shows me a couple of options, such as choosing toggle or non-toggle. There are no options to turn it off or on. When I try to see device links table, it asks me to check one of my devices. Also, I can only run diagnostics, on B, none of the other buttons. LONG STORY SHORT: I need help! I have no clue what I am doing. I do not know how to link and or program the KPLs to my ISY. Someone, please forgive me stupidity and please help me!! THANK YOU!