shannong

I'm having issues with this also and have a IR/PRO with v4.0.5. The option to not do automatic writes does not show up under File when I run the Admin Console from the ISY's web portal. However, if I download the console from the UDI support page (v4.0.11) and launch the Admin Console locally on my PC the option is available. Doesn't tell you why it's happening or a permanent solution but perhaps a usable work around until then.

Got it. I was confused at first because I didn't see an option to add the node to the scene as a Controller and a Responder and it could only be added to the scene once. Knowing Controllers are always also added as Responders was just an ignorance gap that made it seem more complicated than it was. Perhaps the UI should say it's doing both rather than listing only one. Oh well. I'm also now realizing the term "Scene" and its function varies greatly by controller platform.

I have very basic linking question by somebody really new to ISY. Previously, I had been using HouseLinc for a few weeks until I decided to by an ISY. I've only had my Insteon devices for a couple of weeks. I have a room with a typical 3-way light configuration. Both switches have already been replaced with Insteon Dimmers and all works properly. In HL, I made the switch with the load attached (SwitchA) a controller and responder of the other dimmer switch with no load attached (SwitchB) which of course means the reverse is true. That way, when SwitchA was turned on it locally powered the load and turned on SwitchB so that both had an "On" state with the LED showing that. When SwitchA was turned off, SwitchB would also be turned off. Of course, the reverse is also true. When SwitchB was turned on SwitchA would be turned on which would drive the attached lights. I don't see how I accomplish that with ISY. I see no way to assign devices as controllers or responders of each other in ISY. Is this done only with Scenes in ISY?

I wouldn't say it's urgent but I am impatient. I have only installed about half of my HA gear in the house and add a few more each weekend from the treasure chest waiting for me in my office. Since I haven't even installed all the components, it would be difficult to say my needs are urgent. However, tackling this HVAC and damper problem for better heating during the winter months was on my priority list of things to accomplish. Easy to do with traditional HVAC gear via zoning but I really wanted it to be part of a more inclusive HA system. Thus, I chose the Insteon thermostat and IOLinc controlled dampers. I've looked at many solutions and have decided either HS3 or ISY are my best options. I almost bought HS3 but passed since it's so new and lacks support for many plugins that I would need. I had a slight preference for HS3 over ISY because it provided integration for more protocols and platforms, particularly Zwave, and you have the ability to write an external script using a variety of languages since it runs on top of a Windows OS and I already have a central home server for it to run on. Basically I bought the ISY because it seemed mature and currently able to accomplish what I needed now as all my current devices are Insteon. Also, I saw ISY had Zwave in beta so I thought I might just be able to stick with ISY in the long run. I saw that one of the HomeSeer contributors wrote a plugin to allow full integration of HomeSeer with an ISY, but it isn't yet available for HS3. That led me to my current belief that I'll eventually end up with an HS3 installation along with my ISY. It'll be interesting to see the new programming abilities available in the new ISY code release in a few months. Perhaps I'll be able to save a few bucks and keep my setup more simplified with everything running through my ISY.

In this context, I'm looking at scenes as a State or an Activity, if you well. My overarching strategy would always have my house in some state. Home, Away, Sleep, Movie, etc that are activated by a combination of schedules and/or manual engagement (pushing a button on a KPL). Each of those would be scenes with particular devices and settings of each. Therefore, each state would be discrete and a definite "On/Active" or "Off/Inactive" state would be valid. In this sense, just because I happen to turn a few lights on that match the "Movie" scene does not mean that scene should be considered "on" when testing the conditional logic of other programs. Perhaps the opportunity for that to happen is very minimal if testing the very specific state of several devices but it seems cumbersome and inexact for me to take that approach across so many conditions of logic that will end up occurring. So for my thermostat issue that started the discussion, adjusting the baffles, fan, temp etc of the HVAC system would be dependent on the active "Scene" which is meant to represent the state of "Sleep" or "Away" or whatever. Also, I don't want the programming to evaluate the set point for the thermostat against current room temps to be driven by a static value but instead relative. (e.g. two degrees below current set point). Doing so allows family members who are home to adjust the temp up or down a few degrees to suit their particular taste but still allow the logic that controls the baffles and HVAC to work effectively. In this case, it wouldn't be effective to have programs written to test absolute values based on hard-coded values of the set point driven by a schedule or scene activation. Now that I know Scenes for the ISY do not have a state, I'll have to think more about how to implement this. Using scenes to set a collection of devices with particular settings is handy but probably won't help me accomplish my original strategy. Or perhaps I need to rethink my strategy. I completely knew to HA in general and the ISY specifically. As mentioned earlier, I guess one approach might to be to use a combination of scenes and creating variables to track the "state" of my house. When I leave the house and press the "Away" scene controller button on the KPL, I could set the value to "1" and then other programs could check the value of that variable (and the other state variables such as "Sleep") when evaluating IF logic conditions.

Thanks.

2413U on HL. 2413S on ISY.

Are the ISY "Fast On" and "Fast Off" control conditions equivalent to registering a double-tap ON or OFF? For example, a double-on tap on one of my Switchlinc not only turns on the connect light but also triggers and event or scene? Same for double-off tap. Thanks.

Shutting down HL had no effect, but I was able to add it after unplugging the PLM that HL was using. Strange considering I have removed it from HL and had also done a factory reset on the thermostat.

Oh. Interesting. You can set Master in HouseLinc. Yes. But the 2441ZTH is not in HouseLinc. I was able to add other devices and including the 2441TH. I'll try shutting down HouseLinc and add it again.

The ISY and box with Houselinc each have their own PLM. 1. New batteries. Adds to Houselinc fine. Sleep mode even after pressing the Set button to link? PLM Status: aa.bb.cc v9B/Connected 2. It's not currently Master. I'll try that. Not getting updates when not a Master is annoying but I guess I can query it instead. I haven't seen the ability to check for or set Master in the Programs UI. Am I missing it?

I've read a good portion of the Programs Wiki and of course tried the obvious of trying to find "Scenes" in the Programs UI on the ISY. Under "Conditions" with the "Status" option, only devices show up in the drop down. No scenes are showing up. Same thing for "Control", only devices are available in the drop down and no scenes. I guess I could create a variable and change the value between 0 and 1 when a scene is turned on and off to determine if a scene is active but there should be a more direct route it seems. Ouch. This will really limit some of the ideas I had. Any suggestions how I would accomplish what I'm trying to do concerning multiple thermostats and the dampers? I now fear I went the wrong route in buying the ISY.

Thanks for the fast reply. I'm sitting with the thermostat between two Dual-Band dimmer switches about 5 ft away in either direction. The ISY/PLM is in the same media closet as the previous server/PLM with Houselinc installed. I deleted the thermostat from Houselinc before attempting to add it to ISY. I also imported it with the "Remove Links" option. I'm using batteries and will continue to do so. If the thermostat is sleeping after pressing the "Set" button to pair it then how does the ISY see the device, identify the type, and attempt to download it's database? Anything else to consider?

Greetings. When I try to add my 2441ZTH (v.oD) to my ISY (4.0.5), it fails and says "Cannot determine device link table address". I can add it to HouseLinc just fine and control it so I don't think there's an issue with the device. BTW. I'm very new to the ISY994i and HA in general so when asking questions or making suggestions you'll have to be very specific. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Greetings. I'm new to HA in general and just got my ISY994i yesterday. So far I've installed about 20 Insteon switches and plugs and am in process to install another 30 or so including door sensors, motion detectors, leak detectors, etc. One of the first things I'd like to get setup is thermostat control. I have the Insteon Thermostat (2441TH) and wireless thermostat 2441ZTH. I also have a damper installed on each of the two vents in the bedroom connected to IOLincs to establish zone control. (Well, almost. Still need to run an electrical wires to them this weekend.) The goal is to monitor the master bedroom temp at night using the wireless thermostat mounted in there to make HVAC control decisions and also decide when to close the dampers. I plan to create a "Dream" scene to turn off lights, set security alarm settings, establish thermostat set point, etc. This drives to me two questions: 1. Can I check the status of scene as a condition? This means I could make HVAC decisions based on my actual activities vs a schedule. I don't have a usual bedtime during the week or weekend so having an IF statement based on a time schedule won't work well. If I use the "Dream" scene each night when I go to bed, that's more effective and accurate. 2. How do I perform math between two conditions and/or variables and compare the result? When heating/cooling is active, I'd like to compare the current bedroom temp with the set point of the wireless thermostat. For example, when within one degree then close one of the vent dampers. When it reaches the set point+1 I'd like to have them both closed. If I simply turned on/off the HVAC based on the temp of the master bedroom only and didn't use dampers, the bedroom would stay warm and the main house would get very cold because it warms up so quickly in the bedroom with the door closed. I want to keep the house partially heated through the night so as not to drop below say 64F or so. That means also using the temp of the wired thermostat to turn on the HVAC probably resulting the dampers closing a lot during the night. Thanks for your help and any other helpful suggestions.