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On 12/20/2023 at 4:15 PM, Kentinada said:
OK changing the Control to Status and the Then clause executes. But I thought Control was the way to go. If I use Status, doesn't that constantly query the device for the status rather than only when the status changes which I what I though control did?
Native ISY doesn't poll devices. However NS devices are based on the code writer's choice.
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5 hours ago, Kentinada said:
This is turning on and off a floor lamp in my office by my desk and computer. I use it test this kind of stuff. So thru the AC, I turn the light off and a few seconds later turn it back on. Is this too quick?
"Control" detects the device pushbuttons have changed, while 'Status' detects the state of the electronics controlled from anywhere, has changed..
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3 minutes ago, Kentinada said:
@Javi so if this is an INSTEON 2635-222 plug in on/off module, then Control won't work with it and I must use Status - correct?
How often do you switch an On/Off module at the device that Control would detect it?
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Just now, Kentinada said:
@Javi so if this is an INSTEON 2635-222 plug in on/off module, then Control won't work with it and I must use Status - correct?
Try doing a Restore on that device. As I always understood it, Control and Status reports come in on different channels from an Insteon device and one link can be bad while others still work OK.
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9 hours ago, DennisC said:
I had this issue on my Polisy and again on eisy. I opened a support ticket and requested a scroll bar be added to admin console. I was told that it would be done but it would take awhile.
That was about 10 months ago.
I think we were told about 5 years ago that the Admin Console would not get any more improvements, due to it being converted away from a java base. However, many features have been added since, to incorporate the billing structure and PGx items, so maybe not improvements, per se.
If, and when, the AC ever gets using HTML5, CSS3+, and javascript, so many hackers will be creating their own versions and extensions to the A/C due to it's huge base of language educated people in the world.
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7 hours ago, Geddy said:
It's doing exactly what you suggested in an earlier reply.
Or did you not mean it that way? That's the only way I've seen to "increase the size of memory Java is permitted". That's what's been tossed about for years if/when admin console is slow and also for things like the font size being "remembered" from multiple logins.
It's not "robbing" the system of much memory (these days). Usually I don't even set the min, but I did based on somebody's post at one point that it would be good to set min/max. I forget who it was. Sad thing is sometimes the memory setting has to be reset after some Java updates. But most of the time I'm not using Admin Console enough or long enough to notice any performance issues with it or with the rest of my system.
Still blows my mind that you've got buttons off the edge like that. Not sure what device that is, but I think last time I checked most of my devices all buttons were available. Perhaps it's your overall screen resolution not allowing the admin console to fully create the buttons. But that would just make your text smaller!
Admin console font size and color choices have long been items people complain about. And I admit to be one of those confused as to why nothing has changed to make the whole thing easier to read. I guess it's just not something that is high priority to update/recreate.
The font size and button realestate thing seems to be a never ending problem. It seems the A/C was setup based on the wrong screen parameters right from the start. I am using a 1024 x 768 laptop and the size 15 font-size.
I see this dilemna all the time here, If I go to a 4K monitor size, what? 2048 x 1932? then my font size becomes so small I can;t read it, so I increase my Windows magnification factor, or my A/C font-size and now we are back to the same problem again with some things not fitting on the monitor screen. Who ya' gonna' call?
I just don't use the A/C to control things much anymore. I could write a program in ISY and operate something faster than find the device page button. (exagg)
I am not a java basher but I see so much of it, and so many other newer language bases being raved about, but I doubt any have the long-term experience java does or the features java has built in. It is still number one in the vehicle and machine industry, AFAICT. Usually most of the hoopla is based on rumoured things that happened twenty years ago when the compiler was young. I have only dabbled very little with java, enough to make my CAO Tags write to ISY variables. Extremely advanced language but very foreign to me.
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2 hours ago, Florida Joel said:
@larryllix I agree it would be nice if they could find a way to store and reuse the font settings in the admin console. As for using 2 gb of memory it won't cause me any issue as I have 32 gb of ram in my system.
Thanks for your help and wisdom.
That's a lot of memory to store the 11 character string "fontsize =14"
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I ran Admin Console on my 1 GB laptop for many years without problems. Now I can't use many of the device pages due to not being able to click many buttons/options being off the pages since V5.01. Size does matter.
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11 hours ago, Geddy said:
Where did you find this?
What @larryllix was suggesting is the settings within the Java console.
-Xms512m, -Xms1024m, or higher
Only use one for "max" setting. I find 2048 works on my system.
For reference:
I have usually had both a max and min set just for ease.
To set this (if on Windows) open "Configure Java" (opens the Java Control Panel). Click on the "Java" tab then "View" and you should get a "Java Runtime Environment Settings" window. In the "Runtime Parameters" you can add the values.
"-Xms1024m -Xmx2048m" - That's my current settings. I'm running on a desktop with 16GB Ram and don't keep Admin Console open longer than I need it to update/change things, and even then that's rare.
With my settings I usually get about 3 or 4 weeks out of themes settings staying. It's very random when it "resets". I'm not sure if it's a Java temp setting getting flushed or the ud*.state files being flushed in a temp directory that's resetting it. I just know it's bothersome, but only takes 20 seconds to reset and re-launch for it to take hold again.
I am not sure I understand exactly what these settings are doing. I don't understand java requiring 2GB of memory to remember the font size f an app written in java. Just really weird and I would hope that doesn't rob your system RAM of 2GB on a constant basis for an app some may run once every 3-6 months.
However the factor you were stating is a limitation of memory usage (Max), which really raises a bigger question in my mind. Why would a max memory usage keep the font size in java any better? Better yet, why doesn't the admin console keep a setup file or some scene/font parameters inside ISY. It downloads everything else (icons and text boxes, pushbuttons) for two minutes every load.
hmmm...seems like the admin console system needs a big overhaul, about 6 years ago now.
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On 12/16/2023 at 11:42 AM, Florida Joel said:
Does anyone know why the Admin Console Text Size reverts to default after setting the new text size to a larger number?
You can increase the size of memory java is permitted and it will last longer but that will be temporary also.
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15 hours ago, ulrick65 said:
To me, the Alexa App is unbelievably clunky and always has been. Amazon should be ashamed of the UI on this app. Not only that, just when you think it might be OK they constantly moving stuff around and half the stuff never shows up. Overly complicated, etc.
The service, echo, skills, integration, etc. all work great... top-notch...but the app itself just plain stinks
Everything in my house is working, but when I go into the app as stated above, the Scenes are no longer there. Go into Devices and about 3 of them show up when you view all devices...but yet I have 64 of them with spoken words and all work perfectly.I was trying to clean up an old scene that I deleted...that's how I found out none of them are in there.
Another example, I went looking for the "Installed Skills" that I have installed for Alexa and I can not for the life of me find a list. There is an Icon for "Skills and Games" that lists them all that I can install...I can search for one and if it is installed edit it, but I can't see where they moved the "Installed Skills" menu item to.
I am currently struggling with getting both my wife and I's profiles synced up to ISY. Works fine for me...but not for her all the time on certain devices. So today I figured I would relink to ISY and see if I could fix it. Did a "Discover my devices" under her account and now I get the same message as above for everything: “There are multiple devices with the name xxxxx, please give your devices unique names and start discovery again.” So nothing works on her profile now. And I can't see where to delete them from...as was said, the portal is working right...it is Alexa (and the app) that stinks. Used to be you could use the Web Page and delete things in about 1 minute there...but now they force you to the app.
If I find anything out will post back here...please do the same.
Thanks.
There used to be a delete all devices at the bottom of the devices page on the Windows amazon alexa webpage to delete things. Of course now you only get a QR code that takes your mobile phone to the alexa app on your mobile device. **SIGH**.
Like everybody else these days, they don't care how many laptops, PCs, or other home computing devices you have they must have a lock on your mobile device so they know where you are at all times. I formerly thought we only rented these devices and didn't own them but now I think we are only renting our bodies and don't own them either.
Stay tuned for the amazon under-the skin chip, for full convenience and control. 50% off on children under age 12, but only if you act now!!Connects wirelessly with the hidden 800 & 400 MHz bands all amazon devices, version 2+ have. No user setup required.
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ISY can do this internally. There is a notification option using a '@' prefix that creates a log.
I am not using this system anymore but there were many posts telling how to do it. History is hard to find here and I am not at home so haven't searched for it. -
No. Repeat 0 times will execute it once anyway. That syntax is messed up.OK...so
Repeat 0 times - stops the next lines running
Repeat 1 times - and this starts running lines after this
Replace the line with WAIT 0 SECONDS.
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On 11/26/2023 at 4:19 PM, beninsteon said:
has it not been noted with eISY as well?
Haven't followed that closely since eISY but haven't heard of it since new hardware came out and new drivers.
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What is a 'reset?Well, I did a reset at the switch, and then did a restore. It now shows that it succeeds. BUT it still shuts off the office lights. I just don't know what is going on.
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If you haven't factory reset a new Insteon device before connecting to your ISY box , do it. This should always be done for any Insteon device, otherwise you have no idea what they will do in some cases.
I have had statuses reporting backwards a few years ago.
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There shouldn't be a problem. However, I like to offset times to 5 to 10 seconds later, because there may be a lot of processing going on at top of the hours inside ISY machines.Just curious, I have a bunch of timed events that are set to fire at 12:00am. They seem to work OK. Is it better not to have them fire at the same time? Does it matter? Is there a downside? Thank you, Adam
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Reading the live voltage through a bulb will read the same on a sensitive multimeter.
Are the two switches wired to both the same black power and white neutral wires?
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1 hour ago, beninsteon said:
That's what I thought for the first 5 years or so before I had my first All On experience. Then it happened, and I learned 😃
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That would be a double contingency and not likely to ever be a problem unless having no water pressure could cause a problem.
Having said that, closing the valve at each end of any water system/vessel can cause problems with built up pressure that has no place to go except to burst something in the system.
I also suspect that with the ISY disappearing out of the formula the All-on problem has disappeared. It has been noted, in the past, that no other Insteon controlled systems ever reported this problem. I am not sure if that was true or not. -
Alexa! I have half a dozen GH devices in my junk box and after using both I found GH made too many mistakes by using assumptions on what you said and what you meant to say.
In the beginning AFAIC, GH was way ahead of amazon but later the Alexa speakers seemed to surpass GH and I discontinued usage of mine.
Now I only use Alexa speakers, however their original intent seems to be slowly sliding into place, as they start to slip advertising into your home. You can disable most of the annoyances but, like every other business, they upgrade the software with new features and always enable them until you get annoyed enough to find the new option and disable it. We're just renting this equipment and have no rights to say what goes on it. LOL
As another note: Amazon speakers (not the version 1) have another band they support and may attempt to allow outside connections to your WiFi service. Last I looked you can turn that feature off. It tries to create a network using two frequencies, 800 MHz and 400MHz. I can detect both on a scanner, when that feature is enabled.
WE have been asking for a lot of language translations lately and the Amazon Show has been very useful showing the text along with the pronunciation. 8" is the smallest you want as the 5" is almost unreadable like a cell phone across the room would be. -
Most don't like to be facing downward or in restricted confined spaces. This can be really bad for pot light styles mounted in insulated ceilings. I burnt my hand on one attempting to unscrew it. The face was fairly warm but the back side, once it fell into my hand, was extremely hot, and I had to toss it onto a chair and then race down the ladder to save the leather from being scorched.
The heat drifting up into the electronics of downward facing bulbs, seems to be a problem and will shorten the life of the electronics.
I prefer to use WiFi bulbs as they can be turned on at 1% without any problems. Insteon dimmed bulbs (or any externally dimmed bulbs) cannot typically be dimmed below about 15 to 20%.Note: With my Magic Home WiFi bulbs, and my own software, I found one position tended to disconnect from the WiFi on an annoying frequency. After switching several bulbs and experiencing the same problem, I discovered I could, and was, overdriving the downward facing bulb causing the electronics to fail due to overheating. I was illuminating the Cool White LED to 100%, and also the Warm White LED to 50%, simultaneously, giving 150% of the rating of the bulbs and over heating the electronics. Lowering the combination to 100% fixed the problem.
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22 hours ago, tmorse305 said:
On Point#1, I have the exact same problem. Every time I add anything in the portal it is not found after 'discover devices'. It's been this way for as long as I can remember. The fix for me is to unlink/relink the ISY skill, then discover devices. That works every time. Funny I just assumed that happened to everyone. There was a thread about this a long time ago but I doubt I can find it. It's interesting that it works for some people.
I remember we found if you unlinked the app for too long, and Alexa caught you, all the routines using the pseudodevices, may become disabled due to devices MIA. Short deletes and rebuilds seemed to be OK for device control mostly.
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20 hours ago, btreinders said:
Thanks, I don't think any of those are factors here. I can watch in the app when I manually set a state variable in the AC and it detects the motion in the Alexa app. I created new routines using that motion and they do not get triggered. If I manually run the routines they work. Guess I'll try to contract Amazon. I really only use them as notification speakers now anyway so it's not that annoying and I use the ELK M1 for notifications as well but it is much more restrictive obliviously.
I had the same thing happening a few times, lasted for a few months and then started working again. However if you deleted your account connections or you deleted all devices in ISY Portal the routines all get disabled, after Amazon discovers the devices don't exist.
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Status and controls are different Insteon channels/connections. Try doing a Restore on each device, one at a time. Sometimes one connection can be lost or scrambled in your PLM or devices. Restore usually repairs that by putting what ISY thinks should be back into your PLM.
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15 hours ago, btreinders said:
I see about a year ago this happened and to me it is happening again. I can see that the device sees the motion in the Alexa app but the routine will not trigger because of it. I have even tried reconnecting the V3 app and recreating the routine. Still nothing. Anyone else having this issue?
Not lately but some items that may be factors.
App likes to disable the routines on updates.
Changing status of pseudoDevices too fast. I found operating a device would sometimes lock itself or another pseudoDevice out for 30 seconds as stated by Amazon, initially.
Each time I complained to Amazon they reported looking into it, and then it would start functioning again, but they never reported back with any bugs or findings to me.
I just don't use the A/C to control things much anymore. I could write a program in ISY and operate something faster than find the device page button. (exagg) 
Can no longer delete old scenes within Alexa.
in Amazon Echo
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Alexa boxes are not dependent on Prime memberships.
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