larryllix
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If
$sLeakLaundryRoom is 9
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Send Notification to 'Default' content 'Leak Sensor Activation'
I'm stumped. Isn't the program supposed to run on its own? What am I missing? Thanks for any help you can offer.
$sLeakLaundryRoom must be a "State" variable to cause a trigger and the programme must have the enable checkbox checked
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If -( | On Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri | Time is 4:31:00AM | Or On Sat, Sun | Time is 8:01:00AM | Or Time is 3:31:00PM | Or Time is 7:01:00PM | And Status 'WH On-Off Module' is not On -) Or-( | On Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri | Time is 6:01:00AM | Or On Sat, Sun | Time is 10:01:00AM | Or Time is 5:31:00PM | Or Time is 9:31:00PM | And Status 'WH On-Off Module' is not Off -) Then Send Notification to 'Terry All' content 'WH Status' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')Thanks in advance
Careful of your parenthesis placement.
The 7:01 and 9:31 times are the only ones getting ANDed with the WH_Status. You should get notifications at all other times listed.
Boolean AND takes higher precedent of order over an OR usually.
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Try this one
It installed the nice direct, via Java icon on my desktop so I don't have to go through the browser load each time. This is the way the old one worked. Works much better.
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Many long time Insteon users. Do an automatic Factory Reset on all new modules before using them.
Thanks! I got the reciprocal links our of the two modules. I am not sure what the side effect from it was or how it got there, but as a newbie trying to understand what a link is, the extra links were very confusing. An ON/OFF module I have only shows one link and that would seem to indicate the RF didn't link, even in the same room.
The LampLinc was a problem to factory reset. That flow chart was very confusing. Right side up helped.
It would be real nice if Insteon supplied real information with their modules instead of a sheet with "Plug in! Look! It turns on and off! They're wonderful!"
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All connected and working. Heat, AC, and Fan control.
The Energy mode hasn't magically turned itself on, yet. It's probably cycled on about 40 times.
The surge suppressor is grounded on the same circuit as the furnace and I verified the frame of the furnace is grounded. I'm not sure why I'd add the MOV considering all leads are connected to the surge suppressor which I would assume has an MOV of some flavor.
Excellent news! Here's hoping!
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Is it possible that both have an x-10 address assigned?
I wouldn't have thought X10 addresses would show up in the links table. This is the only possibility I can think of for my modules. They may have been linked to a same X10 address at some point in experimentation time. I have never created or used a scene with Insteon/X10 and they (two modules linked) have never been in the same room physically or software wise.
In my case they don't interoperate, though.
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Interesting - I would have expected a slightly different behavior. Since in other place it has been stated that the program triggers at the from and to times and since the condition is false in this case I would have expected that the program would trigger but the condition would be false and hence the else would run. This is yet more evidence for the need to clarify triggers versus conditionals from the other thread that is running.
I got thinking and doubting myself on this one. I began to wonder if I forgot to enable the programme when I ran the tests so I re-ran the test ensuring that the enable was on.
It functioned the same with NO triggers of Then or Else occurring, and the programme remained False the whole time, when the From/To times were crossed.
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I also have two modules, a LampLinc and an On/Off module with reciprocal links in them. The ISY links agree with the modules so restore doesn't remove them. I haven't noticed any ill effects from this lately.
Is this a problem? The LampLinc module is a long distance, on different floor levels, and the On/Off would be half way to the PLM for it. Do hops affect these link tables?
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The information is sent to the ISY using normal Insteon messages.
I used a REST call to retrieve that information.
http://192.168.2.3/REST/nodes/xx yy zz 1/ - xx yy zz is Insteon address
If looking at how to access the information with a client look at the WSDK forum category.
Thanks! and Thanks!
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"Q: Can you read the actual temperature reading from inside the ISY that was transmitted from the 2441TH? Is it only whole number degrees or are there decimal places implied?"
Yes.
Thank you LeeG !!
Qs.
- Does the 241ZTH (I see you have one) report the same (used just as a temp and humidity sensor)?
- Can programmes do conditionals based on these analogue values similar to a variable?
- How are fractional degree values handled?
- Where is the setup parameters code being found?
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One more update.... And finally some good news!
Earlier I had posted about using a surge suppressor with protected "network" ports to filter out the noise/voltage spikes of the electric igniters on my gas furnace that was causing the Energy mode to turn itself on. It did prevent the Energy mode from coming on but only worked for Heat. For some reason I was unable to turn on Fan or Cool. I tried removing just Cool (Y) and Fan(G) from the suppressor but then the noise was back and tripping the Energy mode again. Considering it a failure, I deleted the post.
I was thinking about this method again and thought it strange that Heat would work and not Cool or Fan. They all use the same voltage. I decided to try this workaround with another surge suppressor I have on hand that also has network ports. I connected it the same as before and the Energy mode has not yet turned on after 20 cycles of the Heat. (the most I've gone without Energy mode being enabled is 10 times. Usually it's about one out of 5) And this time I CAN turn on Cool and Fan!!!
It seems there was something funky about the way the first suppressor was handling the filtering. Ethernet calls for a 4-pair RJ-45 (8 wires) but in reality only uses 4 of the wires. 1,2,3 and 6. Perhaps it was handling the others differently. Not sure.....
The surge suppressor is simply connected inline between the tstat and the furnace using the network ports. I created two pigtails so that one is used to connect the wire in from the tstat to the suppressor and another to go from the suppressor to my furnace control board.
I have my ISY monitoring it looking to see if Energy mode is turned on. However, I'm in TX and it's 70F today so there won't be any heat cycles until sometime later tonight when it gets "cold".
I'll update if anything changes.
I would be paralleling every line signal line and 24vac power (R,G,W1-2,O etc..) to ground at the furnace terminals where the ©ommon is tied to the case of the furnace with a 24vac MOV. The DC rating would be about a 48 vdc (28vac x 1.414 x 120%) to absorb any spikes on the waveforms. Do not extend the lead lengths! May have to put threaded grounding screws/terminals all along for connection. A/C hasn't been involved yet so it could be done later, if it works.
OK, with them and a ferrite bead on each wire and it still does it, where is the trash can?
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I didn't know the ISY had a temp sensor on board.
I didn't state my question clearly enough and subject to misinterpretation or maybe it was my Canuck accent, eh?
"Can you read the analogue value of the temperature inside the ISY? Not just the binary status points but the real actual analogue value in some form of degrees."
To clarify my Q: Can you read the actual temperature reading from inside the ISY that was transmitted from the 2441TH? Is it only whole number degrees or are there decimal places implied?
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I spent an hour in chat with Smarthome yesterday. They sent a 24VAC power supply to provide external power.
Their first wiring instructions were "just connect it to the C & R". I made them be specific about how they wanted it connected so that when the issue wasn't resolved it would show their work around does not work.
He also suggested replacing the 2441THs with the Venstar+2441V. I asked him how that would help if the problem is my furnace and not the tstats as he stated. He replied it was just something to try.
I suggested the engineering team instead should identify an inline filter that would work. He then suggested then ACT AF300 20amp inline filter. I asked him how he would suggest I wire that in. I didn't get a response.
I asked for an RMA on the damn things and he readily agreed.
I'm going to file a complaint with the BBB they're a member of.
Too bad on all counts there.
My next and last try was the ferrite beads on all the lines but easy access to them would be a necessity and lowest risk. Sounds like the support tech was another "know a bit" type. At least they didn't get you to unplug your fridge and spin around three times like some read off their scripted "fix" software.
The Venstar units are a big jump in price from what I see.
I just want something as a temperature sensor, so maybe you can tell me this since I have searched for several days , without success, repeatedly on this point:
(I am going to spell funny
) Can you read the analogue value of the temperature inside the ISY? Not just the binary status points but the real actual analogue value in some form of degrees. -
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What URL is now being used that results in the 4.0.11 UI?
In the User Guide for the ISY v4.0.5 (pg. 15/102) there is a URL that installs a cute Java app/icon on your desktop and further avoids the three successive logins asked in some other entry methods.
http://isy.universal-devices.com/99i/admin.jnlp
It sure would be nice to have an updated one for Java 7/51 and V4.1.2
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Hi I have 3 different Switchlincs (2476) and 1 Keypadlinc and recently purchased Led Par 16 bulbs to replace halogen bulbs. I had to change the ramp rates back to 0 because the would flash and not come on properly. However on of the of the group of lights still want to flash. Does anyone else have LED's? Not sure if there is a minimum voltage for the Swithchlincs? Or if the new version 2477 Dual Band Switchlinc are more compatible with LED bulbs? Any advice that can be given would be much appreciated.
I use X10 motion sensors and the first thing I do on motion is to hit the LampLinc modules with a FastON command in the ISY. That overrides the slow ramp ON. I cannot stand having a bulb slow ramp up in the trigger programme when motion is detected in a completely dark room. I love the slow ramp OFF, though.
I have a Sunbeam 7W, 3000K, LED bulb (from Costco) on a LampLinc dimmer plug-in and it ramps up and down quite smoothly. There may be a bit of a jump from 0% to very dim when starting but no flickering at all. From what I have seen and read the cheaper and early designed LED bulbs have more problems with it.
I have no wall mounted devices yet.
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Can you shield the thermostat wiring from the high-voltage ignition wiring? Wrap them in aluminum foil and ground it with a clip lead? Careful with the contact spots! Try to keep loops and antenna formations away from the ignition wires? Bundled together.
Maybe. The difficult part will be where the wires fan out to each of the contact screws.Yeah, do the best you can even if the foil splits and you get some individual wrapping of wires. Make sure of no contact or proximity to the bare wires and terminals.
This sounds like RF through the air pickup.
Why do you say that? I'm not disagreeing just looking for details.I am guessing but...
the ignition will be a high-voltage discharge like a spark plug on a car, right? This creates all kinds of radio waves from the little antenna going from the transformer to the spark plug discharges the high voltage as a spark. Sparks and lightning over-discharge and then some ricochets back to the source in an attempt to equalise charges. This creates a high frequency ringing back and forth trying to find equilibrium. (think electron inertia). High frequency doesn't like to follow insulation properties and it bleeds to everything. Some wires going to your thermostat get this RF induced into them and attempt to find their way to ground, getting back to their source, through your thermostat.
It's all theory, at this point, until it works, then it was the facts!
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Can you identify the timing of the mode change with a cycle turning off? This would zoom in on the relays dropping out causing spikes doing the damage.
The timing is easily identified after watching it about a hundred times. It occurs when the electric igniters begin sparking to ignite the gas. So I assume there are voltage spikes on the lines 3-4/sec.
Oddly the two igniters are fed from two different spots on the control board. One is a simple one-wire bladed connection and the other also a one-wire entering into a black cylinder on the board.
Can you shield the thermostat wiring from the high-voltage ignition wiring? Wrap them in aluminum foil and ground it with a clip lead? Careful with the contact spots! Try to keep loops and antenna formations away from the ignition wires? Bundled together.
This sounds like RF through the air pickup. Is the furnace transformer (24v) secondary grounded to the furnace case? If it not visible a simple voltage check from both 24vac wires to ground should tell.
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That Icon should have been deleted when the Java Applications etc were selected for deletion. Note the reference to 4.0.5 in the URL. That is why things are deleted from Java.
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\javaws.exe -localfile -J-Djnlp.application.href=http://isy.universal-devices.com/99i/4.0.5/admin.jnlp "C:\Users\JGD\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache\6.0\39\448168a7-57d6f9c9"
Make sure all browser sessions are shut down. Delete the Java cache including the applications and then use the URL of choice from the 4.1.2 announcement.
My shortcut icons both remained after clearing the Java cache and applications, on two computers also. It seems the earing operation cannot reach those. I had one on my desktop and one in my quicklaunch section of the taskbar that both remain from a handy link in the v4.0.5 manual.
Is there a way to substitute the command string in these direct java invoking shortcuts? They seemed handier than going through the supplied link/methods.
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Only on the legal level.
The usa frequency is not approved in Israel but will work.
I have a few modules installed that are 220 v but if I want to sell them, then it will be a problem but for house use there is no problem
So he only hurdle left is the 50Hz. frequency. A 230/120v step up/down transformer could solve your voltage difference needed for a PLM but the frequency is the basis/time base for the signal synchronisation between units. Please note that most of those small travel adapter/converters are NOT transformers, and usually just series diodes, and that would be what you want.
After some reading about this it seems the RF is also locked to the mains frequency so that the mess networking technique stays synchronised on simultaneous repeats (hops) of transmitted Insteon data. Have you tried these 60Hz modules with a keypad or other transmitter/operator?
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I don't know what happened to this thread but here was my last response.
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This occurred to me but how do I identify the common/neutral of the 24VAC side of the transformers to connect them together?
I already happen to have a 24VAC transformer on hand. That's what triggered the idea.
Connect one wire of your transformer to the wire of the furnace transformer that is connected to the metal frame of the furnace (ground). If you can't locate a jumper to the metal case then it won't matter. It will probably have a black wire going to your stat.(24COM) Now take your voltmeter on AC volts and measure across from the free wire on your transformer to the "other" wire of the furnace transformer (live=24Rh&24RC). This terminal will probably have a red wire in it going to the stat (24Rh and 24RC). Make sure you stay on the secondary sides so you are only dealing with 24 volts, if you're are poking around inside the furnace. Now if you get less than 5 volts the secondary windings are in phase with each other. (small difference) If the reading will be about 50 volts then the secondary windings are out of phase. The voltages add up. Turn off power and change your transformer wire, connected to the furnace common, to the other wire on your transformer.(or reverse your plug) Repeat voltage test to prove them in phase. It may not make any difference but why have the higher voltage around?
If you are doing this at the stat you will need to shove both established common wires into one terminal (24COM). Pull the red wire out of the R terminal(s) and replace it with your transformer live wire. Tape up the furnace feed R wire so it doesn't bark to anything.
Good luck!
) Can you read the analogue value of the temperature inside the ISY? Not just the binary status points but the real actual analogue value in some form of degrees.
Don't give up! It sounds like you are a stubborn SOB and that is good here.
ISY 994 and HUB / or PLM and v220
in ISY994
Again too bad.
If UDI put an interface to the Insteon Hub it could be their entrance into the European market and that serial port could disappear as it is all done over Etherrnet and would open many more way to access home control.