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You must identify the program in ISY portal ad a program and then identify it to Alexa as an on off style device, such as a switch. After doing an Alexa 'discover' you should be able to use 'turn on xxxx' and turn off xxxx vocally. Note that Alexa has started being a PITA for things defined as switches, constantly asking if it is controlling light. It gets real annoying after a few dozen occurrences. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

I had an onoffLinc plugin send out random scene on codes instead of an ack a few years ago. It took me about a year to find ir due to known light patterns used in my few Insteon scenes. After searching my programs for some king of bug I created unsuccessfully for about a year every few weeks, I found some bad codes in my ISY error logs. Then I related the occurrence times with commands I sent to my humidifier. It didn't happen every time just randomly and random scene patterns. From that experience, I conclude that not only do Insteon Scenes not send any confirmation of status, they also have no data integrity checks and I now avoid as many scene usages as I conveniently can. The protocol is a bad one and was never improved by Smarthome. This reflects the rest of SHs poor technical attitude and why they will go bankrupt soon. They are complete morons. The fix at the time was just to unplug the OnOffLinc and plug it back in again. This never happened again for a few years until about two weeks ago. Lately I have found a few random lights on and traced it to the same module. This time the module will go into the garbage. Note on Polisy the errors appear in the Log and the error log does not show any errors at this version and time, so the errors are found differently. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

Access to Insteon products requires a PLM of some kind. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

You must hit the save button first before testing any NR.

Leak.Kitchen.OK - [ID 0133][Parent 00CD] If 'Kitchen / Kitch.LD.dry / Kitch.LD.heartbeat' is switched On Or 'Kitchen / Kitch.LD.dry / Kitch.LD.heartbeat' is switched Off Then $sLeak.Kitchen Init To $cLEAK.DRY <---------- ***************** $sLeak.Kitchen = $cLEAK.DRY Wait 25 hours Run Program 'Leak.Kitchen.OK' (Else Path) Else $sLeak.LowBatt.room Init To $cROOM.KITCHEN <-------------- *************** $sLeak.LowBatt.room = $cROOM.KITCHEN $sLeak.Kitchen Init To $cLEAK.LOWBATT <--------------------- ************* $sLeak.Kitchen = $cLEAK.LOWBATT Wait 23 hours Run Program 'Leak.Kitchen.OK' (Then Path) 'Init to' is at the bottom of the arithmetic operator pulldown list

You can't. The first 1,00,00 bulbs were a defective design they dumped on the market. They were replaced with better bulbs after a few years. I don't believe you can ever do all the colours properly with three LEDs. TV's seems to do it but there must be something in the colour selection the bulbs use. The big difference is $8 per bulb now, vs $50-$60 per bulb in Hue. 15.3' RGBW strips about $30 with controller and PSU, vs (long time since I have seen them) $100 per 3' Hue RGB? strips.

I have defined three shades of purple.called violet, mauve and puroe so I assume almost any hue can be produced from them. My RGBW strip colour also match my bulbs from about four different manufacturers. My Hue bulbs contain no Green LED at all. They attempted to produce all colours an white shades from 3 LEDs and it couldn't be done. I feel ripped off by Philips and won't touch their stuff anymore. I can't remember now (bulbs are in a scrap ready box in storage right now) but IIRC the LEDs were Red, Indigo and Lime green Yellow. The Reds and blues were good, but the best green was about the same as the old fluorescent tubes from the 60s-70s. I can give you my python3 code if you want to send NRs from your ISY. It takes some editing inside the user-spec module to define your IP addresses, and set up 3-4 NRs for ON/Off/Set/Effect. These bulbs contain about 25 built-in effects. I find most useless except for the flashing effect. Great for alarms with no ISY load. Or you can install the MagicHome NR but it still may contain some long delays for multiple bulbs due to using some git-hub interface module technique. I haven't tried a recent version.

I use about 25 MagicHome protocol WiFi bulbs and they stay connected mostly unless there is some bad disturbances. Most of the time a simple power cycle makes them reconnect just fine. They respond correctly about 99% of the time. One problem is the 3-4 power blink factory reset algorithm most of them use. IMHO the key is to send keepalive signals every few minutes so the bulbs and RGBW strips do not lose their connections. However, I use a separate old router, but the main router still must keep all the IP addresses and provide DHCP reservations for all devices, as well as the bulbs and strips. This likely takes a more modern router as I have had a previous unit that just couldn't handle more than 51 devices properly. I find this capability is never discussed in router specs and the support people have no idea what you are actually asking, when asked. The closest answer I have been told was the number of devices each band can handle...not the correct subject matter. I have not found any limits in newer routers yet at about 85 devices. I use my own software, controlled by four NRs from ISY. Set, On, Off, and Effects NRs are required. I set up a colour factor, RGBlevel, WWlevel, and CWlevel variable and then use the set NR. Using negative numbers invokes predefined groups of bulbs or RGBW strips for a very fast response from groups without much popcorn effects, due to prepping all bulbs before turning them on simultaneously. My software currently shares my polisy box along with ISY and polyglot2. IOW: WiFi bulbs can work but drivers need to be well written or poor quality responses may be seen. I used MiLight bulbs for a few years but they require a hub for every four bulbs. Nice colours and good whites. I used Philips Hue bulbs but they were such poor colours I have abandoned them. One bulb...a Tulip? style gave nice colours but at about 1 watt of light. It's colouring didn't match the other five bulbs that didn't contain a green LED. I abandoned Hue due to extreme pricing and worst RGBW bulb colouring I have experienced. Absolute garbage, but very nice API interface. I wouldn't trust Hue ever again, not to screw their customer base over again. I can't afford thousands of dollars for bulbs and RGBW strips when I can spend a few hundred for the same MagicHome protocol bulbs available from so many compatible sources now.

You can access things inside by using the sudo prefix (super user do). Be very careful using "sudo" as you are then playing with system things and can make a mess that requires serious repair. If you change permissions or ownership of files or directories you may lock polyglot out of accessing them.

polisy uses a port as well as SSH and other protocols. That is how the drivers at the receiving end know what protocol to use in response. Using filezilla, use port 22 and it will assume you want the sftp:// protocol. You will need to insert your username and password you use to connect to polyglot for it to make automatic connections. After that, you will see it on the quick connect pulldown menu.

I use Fillezilla, mostly, to transfer files back and forth to my RPis, polisy and Windows 10 laptop. I can create, delete, or move, a new file, folder right on the device or create it on my Win 10 machine and transfer it to polisy when done. It allows me to see the file structure more graphically than freeBSD text only interface. Filezilla is a free piece of software, well written, stable, and gets updated frequently with new features. Runs on Win 10/11.

I find the same thing with many other items also. it is not just ISY trying to take over. With the pandemic congestion, I get emails and text messages warning me of events that happened the previous day. This pandemic is slowing things down more than we want to admit. Also with truckers blockading major routes it may be dragging the data speeds down with it. I know the truckers all have CB radios and they use RF frequencies that may be killing our WiFi items. We need to blame them possibly. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

I use MagicHome compatible controllers. They are WiFi based, 12v or 24v switching controllers, good for about 15.3 feet strips of RGBWW/CW, can mix WW/CW and RGB, and handle up to 6 amperes of LED strips. I use 12v PSUs and have found a wall-wart type 12v, 3A supply can run them easily. The WW LEDs produce a beautiful rich white suitable for kitchen/work surfaces as well as most living situations. There is an old thread about various RGBW controllers a few years back. There are several brands that are compatible, and there is a MagicHome NS. I wrote my own bridge software and operate it from four ISY NRs to give me faster grouping without popcorn effects. My NRbridge software is currently running on my polisy along with ISY and PG2. The controllers I am using are LEDenet brand. All compatiible with many brands of RGBCW (five LED colours) bulbs too.

Geeez! I posted 4 times in this thread and none ever showed up later. I am trying this with Edge this time. Possibly the forum is developing FF problems as other forums are experiencing. Anyway... Thank you io_guy! I have been reading from the links you provided and have found no actual method to install the update to my SiLab stick yet. Lots of mention about using Win PC or RPi to do this but no actual method. I do not understand what a PC Controller or OTW (from your post) means. Can you elaborate more on a method using either hardware?

With the secure https://xx.yy.zz:8443 you must use the port number extension on the URL With the non-secure http://xx.yy.zz:8080 you must use this port number extension on the URL

The point I was trying to make is why the user has been gifted to use a pulldown menu to turn a Zwave device on and off, and also dozens of pulldown menus (with user friendly labels) to control an LED on the side that nobody will ever use. Then when it comes to setting the basic operational parameters needed to make the device work, the user has to consult an engineering guide specification sheet and find the correct hexadecimal parameter number. The menu driven selection was totally up to the programmer to select decent usable parameters in the ISY that most users will use. I may never turn these receptacles on or off once set but those menus will still clutter up the ISY admin console with useless (to me) menus, status pages, and hundreds of settings. Here are the webpages involved but still avoid the user friendly parameter setting to actually make the pages function. Do we really need a few dozen parameters to control the LED on the side of the receptacle while the basic threshold setting to enable/disable the metering is hidden in an engineering pamphlet, stated in Hexadecimal? I mean I grew up on tech bulletins, but a good majority of users will never make the thing run as the purchased it.

I agree with the user database and made that suggestion a few years ago, also. However, if the same thing was applied to a Zwave thermostat, the parameter selections done in binary would entail hundred, maybe thousands of fields. People wouldn't love to look up parameter field numbers everytime they wanted to set the HVAC setpoint. Meanwhile dozens and dozens of field parameter were assigned to predefined fields with predefined pulldown menu selections for the colour RGBW, including the ramping speed of the LED, the sequencing times for flashing, and effects, for the little LED on the side of the receptacle, which nobody will ever see and only possibly for troubleshooting technical people. This is how to get non-tech users to run away from ISY and surely must be a mistake somehow.

I am not sure this is only Zwave things. I am a newbie to this realm also but the GUI for this device is only half baked. Cripes we don't have to insert hexadecimal field numbers for any Insteon devices and I know they don't talk in English names fields. Why would UDI leave these devices at the low level a hexadecimal programmer level. This will turn users off and get them to go elsewhere. I just figured the time was early but if all Zwave devics are left for the user to research technical manuals to find the necessary hexadecimal field numbers, ISY will be dead in a year or two. I mean really? How many users will use lines like this to turn on the reporting of the basic metering? Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter 0x1B = 0 ...and then they must know the bit length of the parameter field to communicate properly. How many ISY users will understand what "unsigned binary" or 0x1B means in order to use a Smart Receptacle? Am I missing something here? Was my response from @Michel Kohanim confused somehow? If this is a temporary solution for so many Zwave devices, without studying every engineering manual (a daunting task), will there come a time where knowledgeable users can submit real names for fields on Zwave devices for ISY users that are even afraid of using variables, because they are "too complicated"?

I assumed the basic parameters to make them function would have been incorporated into the GUI and not 2-3 duplicates of everything, including detailed pulldown menus that control a coloured LED on the side of the box, nobody will ever see.

When you turn on a group of lights they show a sequence of them turning on a different times. This can be very annoying. Insteon scenes can make lights synchronized looking whereas many other protocols cannot do this. I use MagicHome protocol bulbs and strips and external software can make them appear more simultaneous.

Yeah, I have a lot of WiFi RGBWW strips and bulbs now. They don't report status back to ISY (using my bridge software) though but I don't see a lot of usage for the confirmation, most of the time and I can do groupings of bulbs, without the ISY popcorn effects.

Most/many use the RGB+++ controllers for LED lighting strips. They dim right down to 1% without any flicker and work on various protocols (WiFi, Zwave, Hue, ZigBee, BlueTooth etc..). Some are dual protocols and compatible with similar RGB+++ bulbs. (Same software drivers and techniques).

Thanks! I thought the Zwave devices GUI would be more polished at this point. This is a PITA sooooo... Looks like the answer is more ISY constants, unless UDI is going to make more detailed parameter descriptions but I assume it is different for every brand and model anyway. We need a admin constant variable pocket with another pulldown menu for variable selection separate from constants please......... (I have over 500 variables now that make ISY living much easier.. ) For those of you not variphobic, here is the ISY variable constant technique I use, to avoid not having to find and review technical docs every time I want to edit a program. Note: The ending "1B" and "2B" specifies the length of the parameter field required. These parameters have not been tested to this point yet. Washer Sensitize - [ID 0122][Parent 0066] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then // Set internal check time Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.CHECK.TIME_1B' = 5 // Set Watts & Amps threshold=0, update time=30s Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.WATT.THRESHOLD_2B' = 0 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.WATTS.TIME_2B' = 30 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.AMPS.THRESHOLD_1B' = 5 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.AMPS.TIME_2B' = 0 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.VOLTS.TIME_2B' = 0 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.KWH.TIME_2B' = 0 Set 'WashMach Switch' Set Configuration Parameter '$cPARM.KWH.THRESHOLD_2B' = 0 Set 'WashMach Switch' Write Changes // Wait 10 minutes Run Program 'Washer Desensitize' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Other than the options indicated in my post above screenshot , I can't find any mention of any such option. Is there some particular place to look for this option? The Smart Switch 6 receptacle cannot be recognised by ISY v5.3.0p, at all. I wonder if I have a defective receptacle that cannot introduce itself? I have tried the single click as well as the double click with both ISY's Find and Remove Zwave devices and no response is ever seen in the admin console. ENERGY METERING UPDATE Looks like I have to set parameters by parm numbers. Is this a preliminary setup? This is very user unfriendly. Will parm field names be coming later? It appears I need to set thresholds and update times manually, more sensitive and faster when expected usage is happening, and then slow things down when not (to avoid data storms on ISY). It appears energy monitoring is expected to be a low priority mission in the Smart Switch 7 with lack of intelligent updating. Smart Switch 6 is still ignored by ISY still.

Perhaps the SiLabs Seres 700 dongle is causing me incompatibilities with polISY v5.3.0? Anybody else tried these Aeotec Energy Monitor receptacles with their ISY? Do they ever report the energy status or do they have to be polled?