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You may have a communication problem. ToggleLincs are powerline only. Are both device on the same or different circuits? Do you have any dual-band devices on the same circuit(s)?

That still requires that you know in advance how long you want the fan to run. If you take less time than your estimate, it's easy to select 10 minutes (the original request)--if 10 minutes is one of the fixed options. but if you under estimate, then the bathroom fogs up, not a great condition. The OP requested a simple solution, no guessing required. Turn the fan on, take any length shower and then have the fan run for 10 additional minutes after turning the fan off. A simple request with a parsimonious solution. One could even use the flow of water to make the process totally automatic

What is the ramp rate for each of Switch A and Switch B set at in the scene? What are the default ramp rates for each switch?

But the simple timer doesn't continue for 10 minutes after it's turned off--which was the original request. Some showers take longer, for example, washing one's hair. My wife also takes more time than I do (more hair?). A fixed timer does not allow for those circumstances.

The pulsating stopped. So did the functioning of the secondary buttons. I (finally) replaced the On/Off KPL with an older on I found in my spare parts box--now that I found my spare parts box

The OP requested that the fan continue to run after it is turned off. A simple timer won't do that. A program is required.

That only indicates that the devices are members of the scene. Are both address listed as [succeeded]?

Select Tools > Diagnostics > Event Viewer. Set the Level to 3. Select Clear if the window is not empty. Right on the scene. Select Diagnostics > Scene Test > Yes Look between the lines starting and ending with ----- Scene Name ----- Does every statement between those lines indicate [succeeded]? If not, which statement(s) did not succeed?

Remember to restore only one battery powered device at a time and also to take that device out of linking mode before restoring another. If you have a Pro version Restore Modem will go faster is you opt to NOT include battery powered devices during the restore (click on the icon, green is active, gray is not active).

IF Control 'fan device' is switched Off THEN Set 'fan device' On Wait 10 minutes Set 'fan device' Off

Use one scene with both the Keypad button and the LampLinc as controllers,

Add a controller (e.g., KPL button) to the If section. That will not affect your ability to call the Then section from a program.

Yes, all involved button need to be members of each spped scene. Create a light scene with the RemoteLinc and KeypadLinc light button as controllers and the FanLinc light as a responder. Include any other devices you want to control the light including the non-dimmer SwitchLinc which, BTW, is capable of dimming the light.

If Time is whatever And Status 'Livingroom Light 2' is not Off

You're just turning scenes on or off. But my previous post is in error. Here's the method to change the device level in a scene: Then In Scene 'scene name' Set 'device name' x% (ON level) Repeat for each device in the scene

Set each button to On-only. Set the scenes as follows: Low: Low button on, all other buttons off Repeat for each button.

A program is the correct approach. If From 'specify time or sunset' To 'specify time or sunrise' (next day) Then Set 'scene name' desired level Else Set 'scene name' desired level

SCKoman, Copy and paste your programs here (select the program, right click).

Rob, To REM out a line of code Repeat 0 times statement to be REMed out Repeat 1 times

Add the button to the scene as a responder. You could add it as a controller, but since it's the only member of the scene, there's nothing to control. You can't control the secondary buttons without a scene because each button is a different group of the same Insteon ID and the ISY can only control Group 1 with a direct command. BTW, I have several scenes where the only member is a KPL button.

It is not possible to control a single button's LED brightness as there's only one circuit that adjusts the brightness of all the LEDs. You can, however, create a scene with only one button as a responder and use a program to alternately turn the button on and off.

Standard 3-way switches as called 3-way because they connect to three wires. They're used when a single load (may include more than one fixture) is controlled from two locations. One of those switches is wired to the line, the other is wired to the load. The two wires that connect the switches together are called travelers. If more that two switches control the same load, 4-way switches are installed between the 3-ways. They're called 4-way because the connect to four wires, the two travelers from each 3-way switch. Each of these 3-way and 4-way switches still have only two positions, up or down. They're not labelled on/off because their effect is based on the position(s) of the other switch(es) in the configuration. Insteon uses a virtual (as opposed to actual) 3-way configurations. In particular, when more that one device controls the same load, only one of those devices is actually wired to the load. That's why the configuration is called virtual. Any time a KeypadLinc secondary button controls a load, you have a virtual 3-way configuration. KPL buttons not wired to a load are the secondary buttons. The button wired to the load (if any) is the primary button. Any device or button not wired to a load is the secondary device. Any device wired to a load is primary.

I'm not sure what, "the scene will not work with one of the ToggleLincs if I include it alone," means. Which ToggleLinc is wired to the load matters, the one that responds or the one that doesn't. How may scenes are involved? List the members of the scene(s), specify which devices are controllers/respondes and which are responders only.

Just to be clear, all three devices are responders to the MS, but the KPL is a member of a different scene as a controller of one ToggleLinc and that ToggleLinc is wired to the light(s).

Provide some details about the scene(s), particularly how the KPL controls only one of the ToggleLincs. Taking a few tries to activate is different that how long it takes for the devices to respond. Sounds like a communication difficulty. Also, motion sensors do not respond well to waving, walking across the field (i.e, horizontal movement) is a better test.