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Wellllll, I reformatted EISY AGAIN and installed the HS Z-wave stick, but it looks like that now the EISY only supports the ZMatter module and no other Z-wave sticks. I gave it my best shot, but it wouldn't detect the z-wave stick until I put the ZMatter back in place. From the EISY online manual: The ZMatter Z-Wave implementation can only use the ZMatter Z-Wave controller (either board or USB dongle).

The switches themselves have a basic LED signal indicator (Green/good, Yellow/fair, Red/poor).

I was able to revive my EISY by factory resetting everything (EISY, Insteon PLM, ZMatter dongle). I added a couple of NEW Z-wave 800-series switches, but they are reporting a very poor signal. EISY is in the same room as the 2 switches (8' away from EISY in open air, certainly less than the required 1-mile range). I did a 'heal network', but no change. Any thoughts on how I can improve the signal? I realize the ZMatter is an older 700-series (shouldn't have this issue though), so I just purchased an 800-series HomeSeer Z-wave dongle to see if it works better, but I really wanted the Zigbee and Matter functionality of ZMatter, the entire reason I purchased it! Thanks!

Update: I bought a Raspberry Pi and set up Home Assistant and was able to easily configure 2 Z-wave switches to operate as a 3-way switch pair! I can dim/brighten one switch, and it will at the same time brighten/dim the other switch in real-time as if they're both connected to the load. I wish the EISY had this capability. Note that for Insteon control, the EISY is worlds ahead of HA. For example, putting a keypad button and a lamp module in a HA Scene does NOT allow the keypad to turn on the lamp. It only allows HA to turn the scene on/off. Mini Remotes are not scene capable; it adds them as a device with no buttons but allows you to trigger a program with a button press. It does not allow you to brighten/dim a lamp, for example, using a remote (by program). Also, HA does NOT keep track of changes to device status very well, so it often shows the incorrect status of devices. For example, if you turn something on via remote, keypad, locally, HA is completely unaware and will report the previous status. So, no real way to reliably know if lights are on or not. It has a billion options, but for reliability I prefer the EISY. My EISY is still non-functional, but I'm attempting to revive it. That IoX launcher never seems to find EISY unless I unplug EISY to reboot it first, then it's fine. I've probably done that one too many times and corrupted something.

UPDATE: As suspected, the EISY is now pretty well dead. I couldn't login and finally figured out that it defaulted to admin/admin for login (although UD Mobile still connects successfully?!?). If I try to do anything now, it just crashes. No Z-wave, no Insteon, just a paper weight. Appreciate the suggestions.

At this point, I think the EISY is dying. Lights that WERE working with my Insteon remote are now taking 30-60 seconds to respond and turn on if at all. I rebooted EISY a few times, occasionally something will turn on, but very unreliably. Also tried unplugging / reinserting the ZMatter antenna and rebuilding the scene. Thank you for all the advice, and I really appreciate Guy testing out a scene to show it SHOULD be possible. Looks like I have no choice now but to move to another system.

They are Inovelli Red Series (Z-Wave) 2-1 switches (acts as a dimmer or on/off switch). I've never used Z-wave before, but if I understand correctly, it appears that Z-wave devices in EISY scenes are "Responder Only" even when marked as Controllers. The EISY can turn on Z-wave devices in a scene (Responders) but Z-wave devices can't trigger an EISY Scene. For example, putting a switch as a Controller and a wall module as a Responder does nothing when the switch is turned on. The manufacturer suggested I upgrade to another controller like Home Assistant, but I was REALLY hoping to avoid that. But I spent the weekend installing tons of these switches only to find they don't do anything - lol.

Thanks. These have options for several 3-way modes (and have a traveler terminal), but its description is vague. I’ll get there one way or another!! FYI, Insteon remotes, keypads and switches all control these Z-wave switches perfectly in a simulated 3-way.

I just replaced all my Insteon switches with Z-wave (praying that wasn't a huge mistake). I'm trying to replicate an Insteon 3-way scene with 2 Z-wave switches: One switch is connected to a light, the other switch is connected to power only. I've tried putting the light, the Basic Associations (2, 5, 6), and the Dimmer Control nodes all in a scene, but no matter what I do, neither switch controls the other. The switch that's connected to power-only can't seem to tell the other switch to turn on. Can one Z-wave switch tell another to turn on (via scene)? Can one Z-wave switch tell another it's brightness level? If I set one to 30%, I want the other to show 30% on its brightness level LED bar as well. This house is LOADED with 3 and 4-way switches, so I have to either get this working or change it all back to Insteon.

Ah, that makes sense, thank you. Too bad you can't pass a switch to a program as a variable so we could send each switch to a single program and set the parameters.

I believe A.I. lied to me, saying EISY can easily set configuration parameters on a group of Z-Wave switches by putting them into a scene. I see that option for an individual device, but not for a scene. Anyone know of a work-around or potential feature enhancement coming? I purchased a number of Inovelli Red Series 2-1 switches❤️ that have 60+ parameters per switch (20 switches x 60 parameters = 1,200 lines of code for initial config). Some parameters I'll want to set frequentlyfor all switches, such as notifications (set the light bar to any color with any of 19 animations like flash or chase). That's a lot of programs for each switch for multiple notification types (Garage door left open, security is armed, weather alerts...) Any clever alternatives before I spend the next 7 years programming these things? lol

Yes, all the lights turned out and no way to turn anything back on again. UGHHHHHHHHH

Thank you, Guy - So basically these nodes aren't used by EISY and for a ZW device to control a scene I could create a program based off the device's status. Appreciate the guidance!

I'm trying to learn about ZWave with EISY. I have a ZW garage door opener and a JASCO plug-in Switch ZW4104. Both can be controlled by EISY. So, I tried testing scene control with the Jasco and failed. The "ON-OFF Switch" node responds to the scene, but what do the other nodes do? They don't seem to respond to the scene (even the "Scene Responder" node), nor do they work as a controller for the scene when I press the on/off button on the Jasco. The Jasco has these 5 nodes: ON-OFF Switch Switch All Basic Association 2 Basic Association 3 Scene Responder I can't seem to get the switch on the Jasco to turn on the scene with either an Insteon module, nor with the ZW garage door opener (just for testing/educational purposes). Just need guidance on how to use each of these nodes in a scene. Found the following online, but button presses with Association 2, nor double-tap with Association 3, seem to do anything do the scene members: Jasco ZW4014: This device supports Association Command Class (3 Groups) Association Group 1 supports Lifeline, Binary Switch Report Association Group 2 supports Basic Set and is controlled with the local load Association Group 3 supports Basic Set and is controlled by double pressing the On or Off button Each Association Group supports 5 total nodes

I agree... it doesn't seem to respond to any button presses any more, it's not even doing a reboot. Thanks all!

Hi Dennis, I tried all kinds of variations from super fast to once per second, to even holding each press for one second. Other button press combinations worked, but no factory reset. A.I. said the EISY must first be turned off before doing the 10-presses, so I even tried that a couple of times. I also threw in several reboots between attempts. Appreciate the suggestion!

I've tried repeatedly to factory reset my EISY with the 10-presses of the power button. I hooked it up to a monitor, and I can see that the 10-button presses does nothing at all. It just sits at the Login prompt. Any advice? I purchased a new home and need to blow away all configuration and devices from the old house. I also tried the old ISY procedure by holding the back reset button in with a pin for >30 seconds. That turned the button red and wouldn't turn back on again until I unplugged it. After it boots back up, it still remembers the old username/password and all devices are still present.

Oh good grief... didn't realize after deleting the programs you have to click "Save Changes". 😁 I'm just relieved the EISY isn't corrupt. Thanks.................

I've gone in numerous times and deleted each of my programs, one-by-one. I want them all gone. Despite them showing as gone, they continue running. Next time I open or reboot EISY, the programs are all there again. How can I delete these programs? IoX v.5.8.4 (2024-06-26)

Thanks guys - I believe you used to be able to include the status of the control button you're pressing in a scene to define On/Off status for the scene, but now it looks like the only option is "Default". So, every time I press the "Off" button, it turns that LED back on again.

I'm programming an Insteon keypad to control an Insteon Fanlinc. The button for "Fan Off" is set to Non-toggle Off, but the LED turns ON if you press it. It's confusing that "Off" is always lit up whether the fan is on or off, so I prefer it just not light up. Is it possible to have it stay off without writing a program? I'm moving and want to take the EISY to my new home, so I'm not able to use programs to force it back "Off" again. You'd think non-toggle On would stay lit, and non-toggle off would keep the LED Off, but the button stays lit either way. Thanks...

@Bumbershoot - Thank you very much for sharing!

The HS-WX300 switch may be a good replacement for my Insteon dimmers that strobe my built in LED lighting in my new home, but I wanted to ask how much the EISY supports it before buying. I assume basic dimmer control, but what about: Multi-tap (1-5 taps to trigger scenes) LED color change of dim level status Custom individual LED status color Custom individual blinking LED status Thanks!

Rebooting seems to have resolved the issue! Thank you so much for the assist.

I'm actually wondering if it's NOT my credentials, but maybe the entire service is down? This is what I get when I login: