Brian H

It is definitely different. Near the bottom of the Quick Start Guide. On the given link. It has the Nokia option to be set to either a dimmer or a On Off device with some set button sequences. It was posted that the Nokia modules where not 100% feature wise from a standard Insteon Module. Good to see it was even seen at all in the ISY controller.

The screen shot shows it is an Unsupported Device. Probably had to be added with Start Linking mode as auto probably will not find it. Not clear right now. How much the new device was programed after originally being a Nokia Module. I would imagine at least. It may have the same Category and new Subcategory when interrogate for an ID.

Than you for the log data. I am sure it will be of a big help.

You may want to look at this wiki page. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-994i_Series:Migrating_To_Your_ISY-994i The finder will not work on that model. As even the latest ISY99i firmware is too old for it to find and run it. The 2412S can power the ISY994i. So the use the original PLM may power the ISY994i over the serial line. Not clear if you use the ISY994i and the replacement PLM.

I did not see it on the eisy pages of the UDI sales pages or lilyoyo1's link here. Another point. The 2412UH was the model with a different Subcategory that the proprietary version of HouseLinc checked before allowing it to work. It has a slower clock speed over the 2413S/U and may even have the smaller link database found in the earlier revisions.

We have seen our share of power supply issues and the ISY994i. I had a weak one and the ISY994i was working sort of. I did a power cycle reset and it never came back up. All the LED's just pulsed on and off. If you looked at the output an did not have a load on it. It could still read OK until loaded.

There where two major hardware 2456S3 modules along with different firmware. The V1.3 and all the other V1.?. Have a 120VAC relay in it along with its hardware. The V4.0 and above. Where completely redesigned with a 24VDC relay and hardware. V1.? modules had local control sensing. Enabled and you had to disable it with an added X10 Off address. The V4.? have local control sensing disabled and you used a some set button routines to enable it.

Just got an email from UDI. There is a 20% discount on PLM repairs through the new Insteon site. With a discount code in the information page of Insteon.com

From the official notice on the ISY-994i a few weeks ago. Indicated it was produced for sixteen years. How long would you want a device to be made and supported? I have not seen many manufactures still have no cost customer serve for more than a year or too on a purchased device. I have seen UDI bend over backwards to assist someone.

For the 2412S or 2413S. The PLM serial connector is a network style RJ45 with serial signals on it. As linked to in the previous reply. There was a cable with the needed RJ45 to DB9S inside the boxes shipping material. Material not marked so many missed it or tossed it with the empty box. There are some custom cables construction posts here also.

Hopefully the new management. Will give the whole 2413S/U a good look at. Parts wise. Over the previous owners band aid tries to fix it. With different sized capacitors all of dubious quality.

Since the ISY994i has been officially discontinued and support time is now limited. Not to sure what you may get done. https://www.universal-devices.com/byebye994/ https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#ISY_Portal:_Integration_with_Amazon_Echo/Google_Home/IFTTT https://www.universal-devices.com/ https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

I have seen a module. You could wire in parallel with the load. That sometimes helped with flicker. Don't have any data easily found right now. I agree some bulbs electronics are just don't play well with Insteon power line signals. While others do.

The UPS power filtering can absorb the power line commands from a PLM. Many also don't have a true sine wave AC output. That many power supplies don't run with. No UPS on a PLM is a very good recommendation. FilterLinc sound like a good way to go. That is how mine is. PLM in the unfiltered outlet on the front. Computer equipment on the filtered outlet.

You may also want to note the firmware version of the modules. Reported in the Administrative Console. As date code and hardware version. Doesn't always indicate a firmware version. As some modules like the 2413S PLM have the same firmware in more than one revision. I have see 9E in more than one and I maybe the same one still being used.

Glad you found the problem device causing power line issues.

The sales page. Does indicate you need the RJ45 Serial type port to a USB signal. Is plainly called out on the Eisy page. The adapter is not overly costly, but would add some cost to those with the 2413U and 2412U PLM. As it has to have a Serial to USB converter and has to have the custom RJ45 serial port signals on it. That the more commonly network serial cables do not match what Smarthome decided to use.

Just looked at the kit. So you are using the network style cable, RJ45 to DB9 adapter, and the USB adapter in the kit? Unless the kit has been changed. I don't think you need any cables you made. I saw a mention of the improved PLM being Q2 and the 2413S March of 2023

That sounds right. See page #6 2440new.pdf

Thanks for the information on the RJ45 RS232 use. As long as someone doesn't think it is a network connection and try that route. 😀 The Serial RJ45 pin out is not even close to what Smarthome did with their custom signal connections. Like TTL and +12VDC on some of the pins. Using an adapter. Where the user can select what wire goes to what pin. Should work.

Swapping the USB daughter board with the Serial Port daughter should work. As long as the attached interface does not check the PLM ID that is attached. As the 2413U with serial board will identify with the Category and Subcategory ID of a 2413U. The ISY994i does check for a connected PLM and shows its firmware but don't it checks the USB or Serial status. I put a serial board in a 2412U and did a few test software tries. It did seem to work just fine. It did ID as a USB version. A serial board from a 2412S I would be cautious of. As the 2412S had a slower link database memory speed and early ones where 417 links. Houselinc checks for the module it is interfacing with. So it may or may not be 100%. As I remember they came out with an updated file to include the newer versions of the 2413S and 2413U with a later Subcategory number.

Insteon devices only support X10 power line commands and do not repeat X10 commands on the power line or by RF signals. Dual band Insteon modules also do not receive the X10 RF 310 MHz only the Insteon 915 MHz. Some of the later Insteon modules dropped the Primary X10 address feature and did not support X10 at all.

What are you trying to do? Does the Eisy have a serial RJ45 network style connector. That Smathomes unique serial format connector used and not the standard DB9S for serial communications? I would seriously doubt it. So best thoughts no. The three wire connections from the RJ45 unique serial connector to the DB9S. Is documented in a few places and in this thread.

The text you posted. Looks like it still was using I2 communications.

When first powered up. The manual indicates it goes into a calibration routine. Not too sure if that has any early linking attempts. Mine is in the box unused but did a test with it. Good point on the power line only communications. My V1.1 firmware V.30 in the expanded Event Viewer also shows " Not sure if it is an I2 device" so it reverted to I1. That is a lot of peeks and pokes on the power lines. So close to the PLM may help. This was in a test with 5.0.16C in the ISY994i Your V1.15 test in your original post shows it doesn't have any links in it.