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If it was possible to do such a thing on Insteon devices without having to hold the button for 3 seconds, why wouldn't the ISY just do it automatically? It already knows when it needs to and for which devices so why not just have it do it as soon as a device reports in with a state change or heartbeat?

Oh, and none of these devices are part of any scenes. Just realized the scenes wouldn't work properly if you didn't update wireless devices part of scenes.

I'm doing my yearly replacement of my PLM...actually in this case it was last replaced in March. The last few times I've done this I've just simply not written updates to motion sensors. They continue to work fine. I tried it on the open close sensors and leak sensors and same thing. Everything works fine. Obviously this won't work on devices that the PLM needs to change the state on as the addresses would be different. The only consequence I can think of is if the PLM receives a message and then tries to respond. The response will go unheard. What's worse, one of my most recent water sensors is BEHIND a built in refrigerator IN a wall sitting on the wood stem on the floor of the wall interior. I recently had a frig water valve leak and it caused quite a mess because the water went where there wasn't a sensor. This was the ONLY water supply in the entire house that didn't have a leak sensor and is the ONE place where I needed it. It's a two hour job to pull the built 48" refrigerator back out just so I can hold the button for 3 seconds. I should have been smart and soldered leads on the board where the switch hooks up to create remotely located switch that I could get to.

Cool, is that a 5.x thing?

I'd like to post an http get to blue iris to activate camera setpoints based on sensor status. i.e. I zoom several cameras in on the mailbox when it's opened. I currently do this with HS2 but would like to dump it and move to something else that either integrates with the ISY or form the ISY directly. Does 5.x have any such facility?

Currently I'm using HS2 to speak various security and HA notifications on six zones inside and out. I'd like to dump HS2 but that means finding another solution that will work with airplay. Anyone else doing anything similar?

And since this is such a common problem, how come UDI hasn't added a schedulable PLM link audit check so that it can notify you when the links have disappeared or even do an a automatic restoral? They we I confrm it is I select "list links" and none come up. Why can't the ISY do that for me????

If that's the cause of all 4 of my PLMs going bad, then that is pretty sad.

Nothing like that even close. Why do you think line noise would cause the PLM to lose links? And why did this never happen with the 99i and the PLC?

This is already the case with everything else on that circuit and then the power strip is plugged into a filterlinc on top of that.

The motion sensors are not part of any others scenes. BTW, if I simply add the folder state condition to the a program in the folder such that: if ($alarmType is not 0) AND Control 'Motion Sense Garage Inside' is switched On it works just fine. It's only when the condition is on the folder that it doesn't. So my fix is to move the condition off the folder and copy it to each program in the folder but that's really dumb.

State. Already discussed earlier in this thread.

And support from the very beginning has insisted that it was the PLM. I never said I didn't contact support. I just haven't done it recently.

No. Those programs are triggered only from the motion sensor. Nor are the test programs I stick in this folder just to triage this triggered by anything other than the motion sensor.

That's nice if it doesn't need to be replaced to fix this issue but if it does, then I'm long out of warranty despite having the issue from the very beginning.

Updated to 4.5.1. Made no difference. Change to "AlarmType is 1" and set the state to 0. Folder still red. Programs still execute. Very frustrating. This is clearly just broken and nobody is relying on this parent folders like this. I can fix it by modifying every program to include the "AlarmType is not 0" and that works, but not when setting it as a condition in the root folder.

The 994 is the only thing that is in common. I never had this problem with the 99i. If it's the 994 it's well out of warranty although I've been experiencing this issue long before the warranty expired. I've said all along that I don't think this is a PLM issue.

Yup. Very odd. So I did that and it actually worked. Why???????

Not sure I understand the question. Each program in that folder triggers off an insteon motion sensor.

You mean on the same 15 amp circuit? A router, multiple apple airplays, tivos, an hdmi switch. Is there something you think that could be on the same circuit that would cause the PLM to lose links that WOULDN'T cause bad communication?

So this didn't fix the problem. The folder did turn red but programs inside the folder continue to execute. I didn't have time to debug this back then and have come back to it now: The state variable is 0. The condition is "$AlarmType is not 0". The folder is red. Programs continue to execute inside the folder. This used to work once upon a time.

This is still occurring. Just happened today. Lost ALL links on my 2 month old PLM. I don't believe for a second that it's a PLM defect. It's happened on every PLM I've had and doesn't appear to happen more with the age of the PLM. I'm losing hope that this will ever be fixed.

Interesting. So I tried something different. I selected the dropdown and selected remotelinc. I then added the address and pressed OK(even though this remotelinc is in my device list already). It started writing and immediately blew through the first 3 links in the list. It then stuck on 4 until it finally stopped. The write updates icon remained next to the switches on the remotelinc so it obviously didn't finish. I did get responses from the remtelinc for the first three lincs so it's not a transceiver hardware failure. Seems more like a bug. Additional repeat attempts have it coming up starting at link 4 and just sitting there.

I'm having the same issue. Just replaced the PLM a few months ago straight from Smarthome. My 3 PLM. All the other wireless sensors updated just fine when "write updates to device" were selected. But both remotelincs won't update. They actually still work because the links are still the same but the ISY thinks they need to be updated. Brand new batteries in the remotelincs.

That seems to have done the trick. At least the folder turns red now when the state is 1 and green when the state is 0. Thanks guys