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"All of this thread devoted to Blink on Traffic and in the end, LED on TX is 'Blink on Traffic'!" Same feature, difference is the ISY uses the terms in the developers documents, the other term is what is in the sales document. There are other examples. The PLM Developers document never uses the word Scene (uses Group), yet in the sales document things refer to Scenes and the word Group is hard to find. There are capabilities in the ISY externals that stem from what is in the developers documents that have never actually been implemented in the device firmware. ISY Programs can set individual KPL button Backlight levels yet the setting applies to all the KPL buttons, not just the one being set. The ISY does not chase the sales information. It uses the information in the developers documents which may well be different because the device has not "yet" implemented a given feature/function or the words are different. SmartLabs does not always keep the developer information and the sales information in sync nor use the same wording/descriptions. Something that will have to be accepted.

Yes. My initial analysis of how the two Programs interact was wrong. It does take two door open actions for the Programs to work. Now I don't know what the issue is.

$Dog_Out must be a State variable. Otherwise the second Program does not trigger.

The lights will not turn Off if that is the symptom you are asking about. As a side note it is good to to use $i.... and $s..... to indicate Integer or State variable Assuming $Dog_Out is a State variable, by the time the variable is set to 1 the "Control" event will be long gone so the second Program is never True. If From 9:15:01PM To Sunrise + 15 minutes (next day) And $Dog_Out is 1 Then If there are other symptoms adding that information would help. Actually dropping the time range would avoid the small chance the time range would expire before the Then Wait completed. If $Dog_Out is 1 Then

The ISY uses the words from developer documents. Where are you getting Blink On Traffic (Sales document ?) and how are you determining that it is different from LED on Tx (from developer document).

baabm What Momentary mode (A, B or C) is being used to control the I/O Linc Relay? It may be possible to use a different Momentary mode to prevent the Relay from reacting. Would need more info as to current Momentary mode and what Insteon command is turning On the Relay. Could be an On command or an Off command depending on Momentary mode in use. The 3AM Query has been known to produce odd results. The Query of one I/O Linc node results in both the Sensor and Relay being Queried. Insteon event trace of powerline comm has shown that each 120v leg can send one of the Query responses. The second Query response comes back after the next I/O Linc query has been initiated making the duplicate response being applied to the wrong node. If a Program reacts to this incorrect response a door open is not uncommon. The hit to the Insteon network that took out the PLM may have also changed other Insteon device activity. This can be difficult to identify and fix. A common solution is to change the magnetic switch so that Trigger Reverse is no longer needed. This makes the Sensor and Relay Query both show Off at 3AM so the duplicate response does not change the state of either node.

Input 3 and Input 4 can be used as simple digital On/Off Inputs but these Inputs are NOT opto-isolated. They should have a pullup resister on the Input and the voltage range is 0 to 5 volts (not the 0-30 volts that Input 1 and 2 support). From the EZIO2X4 Quick Start Guide I3 and I4 as Digital Inputs: As configured by default, inputs I3 and I4 can be used to monitor voltage levels that have distinct thresholds (0—1VDC for ON, and 3—5VDC for OFF.) These are the levels typically produced by digital devices such as a control output from a liquid level detector or telephone answering device. Keep in mind that the device output can not be of the “dry” type; in other words, the output connecting to the EZIO2X4 I3 or I4 inputs must provide a voltage level required to cause a change that the EZIO2X4 can recognize. If needed, a “pull-up” resistor can be connected between the particular input (I3 or I4) and the +5VDC terminal. In this case, do not exceed the maximum 20mA current rating of this terminal.

On the Admin Console LampLinc page change the Local On Level to some other value such as 90%. When that update is complete change the Local On level to 100%. When that update is complete try the On and Off buttons again. It sounds like the Local On Level is not set to 100% in the LampLinc itself.

Thanks for update. The ISY uses a set of Group numbers for the Inputs that are unique to the ISY. Along with other options that can be set it would have been very easy to set an Input that would not be functional under the ISY Changing the magnetic switch is the best approach.

My apologies. That 2008 post describes changing the Off to On and On to Off commands. I successfully tested the change on Input 2 of an EZIO6I. All the EZIOxxx devices use the same commands for configuration. I do not recommend this, you need to understand how the EZIOxxx device is configured under the ISY. Changing the switch is a much safer approach.

Sorry, the EZIOxxx family of devices do not have a Trigger Reverse option. The type of magnetic or mechanical switch (NO or NC) controls the EZIO2X4 Input On/Off state.

The Wait statement does not cause a reevaluation, it allows a reevaluation should an event that would trigger the Program occurs while in the Wait duration. If the event occurs after the Wait duration the Program is not retriggered by the event.

The If Time is 5:30PM triggers the Program at 5:30PM with a True If evaluation. It does not trigger the Program at any other time. Has nothing to do with whether there is a Wait/Repeat or not. The Wait statement in the OP Program is not broken. If the statements after the Wait do not execute the Program is being retriggered while in the Wait.

Any event which will trigger an Idle Program will terminate a Wait or Repeat and cause If clause to evaluate.

If you think the powerline aspects are functional, which is the part I am concerned about along with overall Insteon powerline operation, put the KPL on and extension cord plugged into PLM circuit. If that works the powerline is the issue. If that does not work then the powerline aspects of device are likely dead.

The last two statements in If are Ored with Climate temperature check so there is a path for True that is not Time based.

You need to be on 4.3.18 to have the Options button. It was also available in 4.3.10 as I was running 4.3.10 when your question came up. I do not know which 4.3.xx image added the Options button.

The Wait (and Repeat) statement can be interrupted by any condition change that can trigger the Program. There are two Programs as well as two Scenes executed before the Wait. If any of them affect what the If is checking will terminate Wait. Also a change in Climate temperature will terminate the Wait.

It is not a requirement to be Dual Band. Most of my KPLs in the main house have been there for years, before KPLs had Dual Band. Some devices such as the I/O Linc never have been Dual Band. Powerline only devices are expected to work. This KPL may have been damaged.

Yes. The only issue is how far the Leak Sensor is installed from PLM. Often a Leak Sensor is installed in the basement near the hot water heater which can be far from PLM. Installed inside a bathroom cabinet can limit RF range. It may be necessary to add additional Dual Band devices.

All battery powered devices use RF only so a Dual Band device is required. The 2413S PLM is Dual Band so it can be used to add Leak Sensor to ISY. Once added to the ISY the Leak Sensor can be moved to the location where leak detection is desired. A Dual Band device will be needed for Leak Sensor to communicate with. Could be the PLM if the Leak Sensor is not too far from PLM. The Leak Sensor can send a message to see if in range of Dual Band device. The Leak Sensor User Guide will provide the information

What ISY image are you using? Click Link Management | New INSTEON Device enter Insteon address of Leak Sensor enter Name of your choice leave Device Type at Auto Discover put Leak Sensor into linking mode click Ok on New INSTEON Device popup

The point of the question is to learn the firmware level of the SwitchLinc. Unless an older device ISY 4.3.18 image has the Options button for the SwitchLinc so it will not be necessary to use the Hub.

When you click on 2477D what is displayed on 2nd line on right side of Admin Display?.

My v.44 SwitchLinc Dimmer that is I2CS shows as 2477D and does have Options button. I cannot find info for a 2487D I have found a 2487S 6 button KPL. Odd that a completely different type of device would also be labeled 2487